Yes. If paying people guaranteed professional behavior, everyone would do it!Bill Spight wrote:I find amusing the implication that adherence to professional norms of behavior depends upon being paid to do so.
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Re: unprofessional behavior from KGS admins during/after jub
Patience, grasshopper.
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Re: unprofessional behavior from KGS admins during/after jub
Gratuitous cat picture. Thanks 
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Re: unprofessional behavior from KGS admins during/after jub
Rather curious that you registered your account one minute before your first post and that all three posts are in this thread. You must be a speed reader to have digested the entire thread in one minute and decided what to reply.saitama wrote:How can you preempt him? Last time I checked, you're not an admin and you can't stop him from posting things here, so unless you count insulting his grammar preempting then I think it's safe to say you're just being rude unnecessarily.
Of course, it is always possible that you could have read it in advance. By the way, have you noticed that the original poster did not post in this thread since you joined?
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Re: unprofessional behavior from KGS admins during/after jub
It's unlikely. The OP clearly ignores most punctuation and apostrophe use, whereas saitama does follow proper rules (even using the odd-looking but IIRC completely correct "it'll".)DrStraw wrote:Rather curious that you registered your account one minute before your first post and that all three posts are in this thread. You must be a speed reader to have digested the entire thread in one minute and decided what to reply.saitama wrote:How can you preempt him? Last time I checked, you're not an admin and you can't stop him from posting things here, so unless you count insulting his grammar preempting then I think it's safe to say you're just being rude unnecessarily.
Of course, it is always possible that you could have read it in advance. By the way, have you noticed that the original poster did not post in this thread since you joined?
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Re: unprofessional behavior from KGS admins during/after jub
As a side note, since this is the nitpicking thread, "it'll" seems perfectly normal and unremarkable to me, as an american with a dialect somewhere between mid-atlantic and southern. No idea if that's the same on the other side of the pond.RBerenguel wrote:It's unlikely. The OP clearly ignores most punctuation and apostrophe use, whereas saitama does follow proper rules (even using the odd-looking but IIRC completely correct "it'll".)DrStraw wrote:Rather curious that you registered your account one minute before your first post and that all three posts are in this thread. You must be a speed reader to have digested the entire thread in one minute and decided what to reply.saitama wrote:How can you preempt him? Last time I checked, you're not an admin and you can't stop him from posting things here, so unless you count insulting his grammar preempting then I think it's safe to say you're just being rude unnecessarily.
Of course, it is always possible that you could have read it in advance. By the way, have you noticed that the original poster did not post in this thread since you joined?
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Re: unprofessional behavior from KGS admins during/after jub
That's nothing. I know folks who use a contraction pronounced roughly "ah-mull"
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Re: unprofessional behavior from KGS admins during/after jub
splatted, thanks.
i do have to sleep sometimes. plus, im using this thread to post inappropriate encounters with admins at this point because ive had a lot of them. i dont really care how some of the users react to my posts because i know how the go community is, they tend to be more passive and let things happen which is how i am to some extent, but theyre actually much more passive to the point where certain people with powers over others can feel like they do whatever they want and those overly passive people will allow it and encourage it. i mean you can easily tell even because said users encourage/compliment the admins when they stop conversations for no reason and then even apologize profusely which is only making the behavior of the admins worse. sure, some of what they do is appropriate but you get the feeling that they have nothing better to do and just want to do things for the sake of reminding people theyre an admin. you cant just sit around and let them do whatever they want or it will get even worse as time goes on, as you can see here, doug and others deciding to try to do an extended ban on me because i dont bow down to them when they try to do something inappropriateDrStraw wrote:Rather curious that you registered your account one minute before your first post and that all three posts are in this thread. You must be a speed reader to have digested the entire thread in one minute and decided what to reply.saitama wrote:How can you preempt him? Last time I checked, you're not an admin and you can't stop him from posting things here, so unless you count insulting his grammar preempting then I think it's safe to say you're just being rude unnecessarily.
Of course, it is always possible that you could have read it in advance. By the way, have you noticed that the original poster did not post in this thread since you joined?
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Re: unprofessional behavior from KGS admins during/after jub
"Passive" ? I plead guilty.
I realized that long ago, in fact, that my play tends to be underly-agressive. I'm actually trying hard to get rid of that weakness by forcing myself to play agressive invasions and sabaki which, to be honest, I'm particularly terrible at.
Years ago, I think it was in the very early 200O's, an admin came to watch a game I was playing. I then thought I had been doing something worth a warning, but actually not. It was my opponent who was sandbagging me. I was too weak to even realize that, heh.
(For the old fellows, the sandbagger was go4976, if that rings a bell to some - Yes traumatizing)
And it happened again ! in about 2005 or 2006, I can't remember precisely. Then "It's not a coincidence" I thought, and started being paranoid over admins. If that were funny at all, I could even say, pissed as I should be "That's the last DrStraw that breaks the Dragon's back" ! (I learnt that one at school)
So I started to hide - like you - with multiple accounts so as not to be hunted. It was so freaky to have admins pop in your games even when you 'd done nothing wrong, yeah - It worked perfectly for a while, and I started gaining a little more confidence back. (I was so down, that I could harldy play any rated games then)
So I played rated games again with an account that was beginning to become my "regular" one. And I taught / was taught too. (I attended Steve's counting lessons live, even !) and I gave teaching games in KTL. There was a nice kid back then, whom was regularly asking for help / reviews / teaching games. I remember him at about 20k, in 2009. I am pretty sure his ID was "XDragon" too, but definitely not the same user, the account probably perished out of inactivity and got taken back.
Oh I forgot to mention I'm also excessively terrible at Direction of Play. Maybe that's why this post doesn't make much sense, just a bunch of random tenuki-talk.
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I realized that long ago, in fact, that my play tends to be underly-agressive. I'm actually trying hard to get rid of that weakness by forcing myself to play agressive invasions and sabaki which, to be honest, I'm particularly terrible at.
Years ago, I think it was in the very early 200O's, an admin came to watch a game I was playing. I then thought I had been doing something worth a warning, but actually not. It was my opponent who was sandbagging me. I was too weak to even realize that, heh.
(For the old fellows, the sandbagger was go4976, if that rings a bell to some - Yes traumatizing)
And it happened again ! in about 2005 or 2006, I can't remember precisely. Then "It's not a coincidence" I thought, and started being paranoid over admins. If that were funny at all, I could even say, pissed as I should be "That's the last DrStraw that breaks the Dragon's back" ! (I learnt that one at school)
So I started to hide - like you - with multiple accounts so as not to be hunted. It was so freaky to have admins pop in your games even when you 'd done nothing wrong, yeah - It worked perfectly for a while, and I started gaining a little more confidence back. (I was so down, that I could harldy play any rated games then)
So I played rated games again with an account that was beginning to become my "regular" one. And I taught / was taught too. (I attended Steve's counting lessons live, even !) and I gave teaching games in KTL. There was a nice kid back then, whom was regularly asking for help / reviews / teaching games. I remember him at about 20k, in 2009. I am pretty sure his ID was "XDragon" too, but definitely not the same user, the account probably perished out of inactivity and got taken back.
Oh I forgot to mention I'm also excessively terrible at Direction of Play. Maybe that's why this post doesn't make much sense, just a bunch of random tenuki-talk.
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Re: unprofessional behavior from KGS admins during/after jub
Pericles, when you are a 6D on KGS, there are plenty of people who would want to watch your games especially when there are no other higher level rankers playing. So I'm sure admins watch you more to enjoy your game play rather than to catch a chance to chastise your game playing behavior.
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Re: unprofessional behavior from KGS admins during/after jub
Rule #1: When you realize you are in a hole, stop digging.
Rule #2: Try to realize when you are in a hole as quickly as possible.
These are good rules in Go. Also can have value in chat room discussions. And dealing with KGS admins.
Rule #2: Try to realize when you are in a hole as quickly as possible.
These are good rules in Go. Also can have value in chat room discussions. And dealing with KGS admins.
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Re: unprofessional behavior from KGS admins during/after jub
Rule#3: If you must dig a hole make sure it is a small one.mhlepore wrote:Rule #1: When you realize you are in a hole, stop digging.
Rule #2: Try to realize when you are in a hole as quickly as possible.
These are good rules in Go. Also can have value in chat room discussions. And dealing with KGS admins.
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I actually used to go to the beach just so I dig holes and sit in them. Is that not normal?
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It depends on who is sitting in it with you.Splatted wrote:I actually used to go to the beach just so I dig holes and sit in them. Is that not normal?
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Re: unprofessional behavior from KGS admins during/after jub
made me do some research … enjoymhlepore wrote:[..] a hole [..]
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