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 Post subject: Re: 55. Kie (3d) vs The Pilgrim (3k)
Post #41 Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 6:30 am 
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However, there is no reason to believe that black will do the cooking by the book

I love the way that that whole song can be used as one big Go analogy.

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Post #42 Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 7:08 am 
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[go]$$Wcm1
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Don't know what to do... I'm going to try to connect to the right or live on place... I wanted to make a sacrifice at the beginning and ended up with two big group to save...

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Post #43 Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 8:31 am 
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[go]$$Wcm1 prisoners w=1
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I'll just go ahead and take this stone, if black moves out, can I kill?

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[go]$$Bcm1
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cont...

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[go]$$Wcm1
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$$ | 2 X X . . X O . O X . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Seems hard for black like this, I think something will suffer for black unless he has some really good sequence planned out.

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Post #44 Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 12:52 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm1 prisoners w=1
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No more time for thinking. Like in poker, I put all in with air ! If things continue to go this bad, I'll have to resign and ask for a rematch... I played without thinking really well :-?

Like I've read somewhere on this forum, Malkovich game is made to think first and then play. Here I think I've done this in the other way... Sorry to give a poor image of my game, I'll do better next time ! :oops:

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Post #45 Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:25 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm1 prisoners w=1
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



I will play as the variation I read in the previous post I made, so let's see if black can make his group live. Either way, I already made the thickness so I should be ok.

Later I will have to investigate the aji in the (N4) stone and how it relates to the (a, b or c) aji. The feeling is that black cannot keep everything there.


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[go]$$Wcm1 prisoners w=1
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$$ | . . . . . . O . O X . . . . . c . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #46 Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 2:02 pm 
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Here I think I've done this in the other way... Sorry to give a poor image of my game, I'll do better next time ! :oops:


Ha! Who's the chicken now ? :lol:

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Post #47 Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 12:31 am 
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Who's playing and who is not ? :D

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Post #48 Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 12:36 am 
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[go]$$Wcm1 prisoners w=1
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I should be able to live small if white doesn't have a trick up his sleeves... I don't think he can let me capture. But I will live gote this way, so I think he's going to attack my other group or build something big with his influence.
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[go]$$Wcm1 prisoners w=1
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$$ | . 5 B O X O X X 7 X . . O . . , . . . |
$$ | . 3 O X X X O O X X . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . 4 2 . . 6 O . O X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 7 . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


For now, I'll just keep following my sequence until something unexpected happens.

Can black find a way to save his group? If not, perhaps black should cut his losses with something like this:

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[go]$$Bcm1 prisoners w=1
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$$ | . 7 6 . . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 9 5 O O O O O . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O X O X X . X . . O . . , . . . |
$$ | . 1 O X X X O O X X . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . 3 2 4 . . O . O X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . # . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Black lives but w is too thick.

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[go]$$Bm1 prisoners w=1
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$$ | 7 2 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 1 O 4 . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 6 X O O O O O . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . 8 X O X O X X . X . . O . . , . . . |
$$ | . X O X X X O O X X . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . O . O X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think this variation is the best, white take a big corner but like this, blacks strategy doesn't suffer as much since w doesn't have perfect thickness now.

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$$ | . . B . . . O . O X . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . X . . . O . O X . . . . . . . . . |
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Black goes all in :!:

If black plays at B2 now--only death awaits.

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Post #52 Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 9:48 am 
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$$ | . B X . . . O . O X . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Nothing to say here. I'm quite pissed after losing sure win games on KGS :evil:

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$$ | . X X . . . O . O X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . X X . . B O . O X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #55 Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 10:34 am 
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$$ | . X X . . X O . O X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . W . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I did some additional reading while waiting for Pilgrim to reply and I think I should move in immediately, otherwise black can live like this:

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[go]$$Bcm1 prisoners w=1
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$$ | . O X O X O X X 2 X . . O . . , . . . |
$$ | . O O X X X O O X X . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | 4 X X 5 . 1 O . O X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . 3 . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #56 Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 12:28 pm 
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Taking his sweet time. If I where black here, I would start looking at more wild idea and this is what I came up with:

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[go]$$Bcm1 prisoners w=1
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$$ | . . 4 O O O O O . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O X O X X 2 X . . O . . , . . . |
$$ | 3 O O X X X O O X X . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . X X 1 . X O . O X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O 5 . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This lives, so...

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$$ | . 8 7 . . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 6 5 O O O O O . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O X O X X 2 X . . O . . , . . . |
$$ | 3 O O X X X O O X X . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . X X 1 . X O . O X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O 4 . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Can white escape? I hope he doesn't try because reading this is quite an endeavor.

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Post #57 Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:33 am 
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$$ | . O X O X O X X . X . . O . . , . . . |
$$ | . O O X X X O O X X . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . X X B . X O . O X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Ok white wants to kill me...
My first thought, but a is not working at all !

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[go]$$Wcm1 prisoners w=1
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$$ | . . 9 . . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 8 O O O O O . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | 7 O X O X O X X 2 X . . O . . , . . . |
$$ | 6 O O X X X O O X X . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | 3 X X B . X O . O X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 4 5 a . O 1 . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



Big Ko, but I don't see an enough big threat for white !
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[go]$$Wcm1 prisoners w=1
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$$ | . . . O O O O O . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O X O X X 2 X . . O . . , . . . |
$$ | a O O X X X O O X X . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | 3 X X B . X O . O X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | c 4 . . O 1 . O d b . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



White get sente and I can decide to play it for a ko (but I'm not sure it's in my interest)
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[go]$$Wcm1 prisoners w=1
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O O O . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O X O X X 2 X . . O f . , . . . |
$$ | a O O X X X O O X X . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | 3 X X B . X O . O X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 4 . d O 1 . O c b . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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$$ | . . . O O O O O . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . . W X . . O . . , . . . |
$$ | . O O X X X O O X X . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X O . O X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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$$ | . . . O O O O O . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . . W X . . O . . , . . . |
$$ | a O O X X X O O X X . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X O . O X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


(a) seem to be the last hope for black, I'm not going to read it until he plays it, it's a pain in the dong to read all the variations without fail.

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[go]$$Wcm1 prisoners w=3
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . B . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O O O . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . . O X . . O . . , . . . |
$$ | . O O X X X O O X X . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X O . O X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Didn't see this one again... Damn, this is getting on my nerves !

A is not working, white will answer x and won't get enough eye space.
B seems not to be working, cause there will be a semeai between 1 and 2 running along the edge, and white will get enough liberties to kill black. So I will end with a useless wall, without life base and white will have easy time chasing me
Here my point now is to use this aji by invading the center. If white decide to kill me, I will try to reduce the white influence. If white decice to tenuki, I will be able to launch the semeai.

I don't have a better idea for the moment :-?

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[go]$$Wcm1 prisoners w=3
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O O O . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O 2 O X O . . O X . . O . . , . . . |
$$ | b 1 O X X X O O X X . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | x X X X . X O . O X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O a . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


edit : now that I see it on the board, I found it too close to white wall and not so frightening...
I will rename this game at : what to not do in the game of Go...

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 Post subject: Re: 55. Kie (3d) vs The Pilgrim (3k)
Post #60 Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 5:19 am 
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[go]$$Wcm1 prisoners w=3
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O O O . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . . O X . . O . . , . . . |
$$ | . O O X X X O O X X . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X O . O X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]






I will keep the pressure up in the center by letting black live in the corner here. The reason is that I can't find a good way to make use of the thickness after this sequence:

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[go]$$Wcm1 prisoners w=3
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . a . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . b , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 3 . M . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . 2 . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
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$$ | . . 1 . . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O O O O . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . . O X . . O . . , . . . |
$$ | . O O X X X O O X X . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X O . O X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I would like to play at the marked spot but then the invasion around (a) will leave white without points and with no real prospects of attacking the group in the middle. Playing (b) directly doesn't seem powerful enough given the large wall white has.

Therefor I will try to make full use of the wall with this sequence:

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[go]$$Wcm1 prisoners w=3
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$$ | . . . . @ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . 5 . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 3 O O O O O . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O X O . . O X . . O . . , . . . |
$$ | 2 O O X X X O O X X . . X . . X . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X O . O X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O 4 . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think the marked stone comes more to its right now.

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