What feelings do you get from various opening moves?

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Re: What feelings do you get from various opening moves?

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4-4: I'm an individual, just like everyone else
3-4: I am both competent and unimaginative
3-3: I am a pillbug, curled up in a ball
3-5: I like to mix it up
4-5: Fight me! Fight me!
5-5: I still refuse to accept that the shinfuseki thing has had its day
10-10: I'm gonna pick fights in every corner because all the ladders work for me
Elsewhere: I wear hand-knitted sweaters and broken thick-rimmed glasses repaired with tape
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Re: What feelings do you get from various opening moves?

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Man, I really would like to see something like this in real live, a guy opens 4-4 and half of the spectators start shouting "boooring"
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Re: What feelings do you get from various opening moves?

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3-3 - I'm just a little scared
3-4 - I'm balanced
4-4 - I'm fast
3-5 - I'm clever
5-4 - I'm a bully
Tengen - I have a plan
Other - I'm a go hipster
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Re: What feelings do you get from various opening moves?

Post by tapir »

Krama wrote:5-3 --> I know all the joseki of this move and I am ready to screw you over because you are not prepared!!!

5-4 --> Same as 5-3 but more interested in influence.


Nah, more likely:

5-4 --> I am uncomfortable in the opening, let us play something you don't know either.

2-2 --> I am a pretentious, little :twisted: with way too much sparetime.
5-5 --> I am Hikaru.
Most copy-paste whole board openings --> I have seen this in a professional game.

No feelings for 3-3, 3-4, 4-4 here.
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Re: What feelings do you get from various opening moves?

Post by peti29 »

Unusedname wrote:I feel like double 4-4 is, come at me. Whatever you got I'm ready for it.

And any other opening is more like, I have a plan, we're doing what I say.

This.

DrStraw wrote:4-4: Someone who is too lazy to learn 3-4 joseki or who learned the game recently (as in the last 20-30 years)

And this is why I play 4-4 :)

Also:
5-3 or 5-4: "Look, I learned this cool joseki today.:
4-4 and then 3-4: "Chinese is the only fuseki I know."
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Re: What feelings do you get from various opening moves?

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illluck wrote:Damn, the OP saw right through me. I don't actually know how to play Go T.T

Hi illluck, Sure you don't (viewtopic.php?p=163715#p163715), maybe I should give you some handicap stones... let's say 9 :lol:

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Re: What feelings do you get from various opening moves?

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Bah, you're all judging me! :blackeye:
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Re: What feelings do you get from various opening moves?

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3-3 - I'm a sandbagger and am about to stomp all over you, puny kyu player. I'm not sure why but it seems to be the sandbaggers choice, perhaps inviting an early contact play, at least that's been my experience lately.
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Re: What feelings do you get from various opening moves?

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4-4: Go is a complex game, let's try to keep it simple in the beginning
3-4: I've studied all joseki and will punish every mistake
3-5: I'm a fancy fellow.
4-5: I like influence
3-3: You know, I'm not as dumb as I look / With all those invaders, I might as well jump to it.
10-10: I heard about the big wall.
anywhere else: I'm going to let you think you should win because I play stupid in the opening and then I'll exploit that psychological advantage
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Re: What feelings do you get from various opening moves?

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16-16: I'm left handed and I hate you.
1-1: This is like Reversi, right?
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Re: What feelings do you get from various opening moves?

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Since earlier posts in this thread have informed me that I'm a hipster:

Anything you play: I was playing that before it was cool.
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Re: What feelings do you get from various opening moves?

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Not sure what I feel about others playing certain moves, but here is what I mood i am in when I play the stuff i play. Some of it depends on what the other guy plays, but still, the mood is there.

The usual stuff:
44 + 44: (parallel) i don't care about fancy fuseki, lets keep it simple and see who has better overall feel and depth (my main weapon recently)
34 + 34: (rotating) i wish to play conservatively, usually solid steady slow game, i'll do my best
34 + 33: i feel conservative and solid today, will try very territorial game
33 + 33: i am in the mood to crush you, lets see if i can, lets make it quick
45 + 45, or
35 + 35, or
35 + 45: i feel like something interesting and special today, can easily transpose to 34 + 34, similar feel just less conservative

Crazy styles, fast and dirty:
55 + 55: i am drunk and/or want to play something fast, crazy, but fascinating
no corner moves, just kakari after kakari, sometimes even kosumi kakari: i am stronger than you, treat it as a handicap and don't whine when you lose

Seldom played stuff:
34 + 44: (chinese) i really really want to master this, but keep failing, so help me learn
34 + 34: (mukai) i knew a guy who was constantly beating me with that, lets see how you fare

And that's pretty much my repertoire these days.

What I find boring (in myself and others):
san-ren-sei: i played it a lot as 1k/1d, then i got over it
tengen: silly silly move, but also tricky
diagonal fuseki (any kind): no dreams
any kinds of unconventional fuseki: usually those are so married to one specific idea, either you know it or not, they lack flexibility
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Re: What feelings do you get from various opening moves?

Post by siowy »

I used to get feelings about opening moves.

Now I don't anymore. I always play 44 and 44 so I guess I'm boring too.
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Post by EdLee »

siowy wrote:I used to get feelings about opening moves.
Now I don't anymore.
I think you're improving. :)
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