SoDesuNe
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by SoDesuNe Fri Aug 15, 2014 9:04 am
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topazg
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by topazg Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:49 am
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by Bill Spight Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:54 am
topazg wrote: Alive, sealed in, and in gote. Woopity doo.
Well, look at it this way. At least you didn't sacrifice some stones for outside strength.
The Adkins Principle:At some point, doesn't thinking have to go on?
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by SoDesuNe Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:58 pm
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by EdLee Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:09 pm
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by Joaz Banbeck Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:05 pm
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by EdLee Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:17 pm
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by EdLee Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:44 pm
Joaz Banbeck wrote: $$W
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well placed after
?
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by ez4u Sat Aug 16, 2014 1:59 am
First?
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- Marcus Aurelius; Meditations, VIII 21
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by topazg Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:31 am
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"a" through "f" are all points that are generally interesting to me. However, he's wearing the trousers right now, so let's see what the big plan is
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by SoDesuNe Mon Aug 18, 2014 3:04 am
Maybe the last exchange was not strictly necessary...
Hard to think of a move now. I like to play
here:
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But I'm pondering whether this is too slow.
Playing 'a' would feel good but my shape is too bad for this (something like White 'b' would hurt).
Additionally, there is the question, if my stones at the top are important? White is already alive, so they could only be used to make territory.
On the other hand, when White attacks them, do I have a good sequence to fight or sacrifice so that White does not get too much?
'c' to 'f' are also some ideas... I guess I should try to count and see if this can help me to decide where to play...
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by EdLee Mon Aug 18, 2014 3:10 am
Bill, do you think his
tiger's mouth variation is slow ?
I wonder about the same thing. Moyo games are difficult.
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by Bill Spight Mon Aug 18, 2014 3:57 am
EdLee wrote:
Bill, do you think his
tiger's mouth variation is slow ?
I wonder about the same thing. Moyo games are difficult.
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Well,
wants to develop at
, but guess who gets there first.
Don't let the double keima get away.
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Whereas,
here has possibilities for development. I think that it is Tennozan. (See
http://senseis.xmp.net/?Tennozan ). As for the weakness on the top side, as Black I would be confident of being able to handle it.
Edit: To be clear, I think that White can make gains there.
The hanging connection is thick, but it just makes the double keima more important.
The Adkins Principle:At some point, doesn't thinking have to go on?
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by Uberdude Mon Aug 18, 2014 4:32 am
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How is this even a thought?! So bizarre! I guess there is a different corner shape (black already has r6?) in which this allows black to kill off r5 aji in the corner whilst also having effect on the outside, but r5 can still easily live here. And even if it did kill r5 there are so much bigger areas. Looks like a danger of blindly following/misapplying some joseki shape you once saw.
P.S. And yes I think tiger mouth too slow as well, but the j17 weakness is quite annoying and why I didn't much like the dame cut of 33 prompting white's capture at 34. I was trying to find a way black could force white to connect on dame at 33 instead whilst also making the corner live in sente but couldn't find one.
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by ez4u Mon Aug 18, 2014 6:53 am
Dave Sigaty
"Short-lived are both the praiser and the praised, and rememberer and the remembered..."
- Marcus Aurelius; Meditations, VIII 21
well placed after 
?
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here:
, but guess who gets there first.