I have a go tournament this weekend, but I'll try to make the next move here too.
Whoa! I admire the fighting spirit, not connecting, but I did not even consider varying here possible - wont I get too much if I just play like below ( this is my first intuitive idea here)? But let's see if I can find something even better...
$$Wcm71 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X X O O . . . . . . X 9 . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . . . X X X . . | $$ | . . . . X X 3 X . . . O . O . O X . . | $$ | . . X X . . 1 . . . . . . O . O . . . | $$ | . O O 6 5 . . . . . . . . . X O O . . | $$ | . . . O 4 O . . . , . . O X . X O . . | $$ | . . X . 2 7 . . . . . . O X . . X X . | $$ | . X . . 8 . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . X . X . | $$ | . O . X . . . . . , . . O X . X . . . | $$ | . . O . . X . . X . . X O O . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm71 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . . . X X X . . | $$ | . . . . X X 3 X . . . O . O . O X . . | $$ | . . X X . . 1 . . . . . . O . O . . . | $$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . | $$ | . . . O . O . . . , . . O X . X O . . | $$ | . . X . 2 . . . . . . . O X . . X X . | $$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . X . X . | $$ | . O . X . . . . . , . . O X . X . . . | $$ | . . O . . X . . X . . X O O . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I simply can't stop myself from cutting here, perhaps there is something smarter, but this feels too good.
Another fun possibility for later: after the sequence up to white C below, it seems to me I can either capture some b stones or connect white C to top. So black side is not as sturdy as it seems.
$$Wcm71 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . . . X X X . . | $$ | . . . . X X 3 X . . . O . O . O X . . | $$ | . b X X 9 7 1 . . . . . . O . O . . . | $$ | . O O a 5 6 8 . . . . . . . X O O . . | $$ | . . c O 4 O . . . , . . O X . X O . . | $$ | . . X . 2 . . . . . . . O X . . X X . | $$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . X . X . | $$ | . O . X . . . . . , . . O X . X . . . | $$ | . . O . . X . . X . . X O O . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . . . X X X . . | $$ | . . . . X X X X . . . O . O . O X . . | $$ | . . X X . . O . . . . . . O . O . . . | $$ | . O O 9 . O O . . . . . . . X O O . . | $$ | 8 5 7 O O O X X . , . . O X . X O . . | $$ | . 4 X 3 X . . . . . . . O X . . X X . | $$ | 6 X O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . O 2 O 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . X . X . | $$ | . O . X . . . . . , . . O X . X . . . | $$ | . . O . . X . . X . . X O O . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
This is a massively long sequence but so many early moves are close to nonsense. White peeped: black didn't connect. So white cuts. Did he not consider this? And what are 3/4/5/6 in that first diagram? Now white's centre becomes thick and that potentially weak group on the right becomes a wall of a large centre almost-territory. Losing h13 is so big. Yeah black territory on the left is nice too with e10 push and cut (to the left of course, Tim's most recent diagram with cut on right just makes black run out of liberties and die) but white's group there was a heavy group he can happily sacrifice for the centre power.
[go]$$Wcm71 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . . . X X X . . | $$ | . . . . X X 3 X . . . O . O . O X . . | $$ | . . X X . . 1 . . . . . . O . O . . . | $$ | . O O 6 5 . . . . . . . . . X O O . . | $$ | . . . O 4 O . . . , . . O X . X O . . | $$ | . . X . 2 . . . . . . . O X . 7 X X . | $$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . X . X . | $$ | . O . X . . . . . , . . O X . X . . . | $$ | . . O . . X . . X . . X O O . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I want to take A below, but I managed to convince myself that I want to first see how black responds to this - if he connects at B, A is more sente than it would otherwise be?
A aims to a) build center b) lessen the threat of a black cut at C.
$$Wcm71 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . . . X X X . . | $$ | . . . . X X 3 X . . . O . O . O X . . | $$ | . . X X . . 1 . . . . . . O . O . . . | $$ | . O O 6 5 . . . . . . . c . X O O . . | $$ | . . . O 4 O . . . , . . O X b X O . . | $$ | . . X . 2 . . . . . . . O X . 7 X X . | $$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . a X . . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . X . X . | $$ | . O . X . . . . . , . . O X . X . . . | $$ | . . O . . X . . X . . X O O . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm71 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . . . X X X . . | $$ | . . . . X X 3 X . . . O . O . O X . . | $$ | . . X X . . 1 . . . . . . O . O . . . | $$ | . O O 6 5 . . . . . . . c . X O O . . | $$ | . . . O 4 O . . . , . . O X b X O . . | $$ | . . X . 2 . . . . . . . O X . 7 X X . | $$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . a X . . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . X . X . | $$ | . O . X . . . . . , . . O X . X . . . | $$ | . . O . . X . . X . . X O O . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
After the question is how to further build the center while at same time reducing black bottom. I'm not sure at all the plan here is best, would like to read other's opinions on what to do at this point after the game...
Trigger below:
$$Wcm71 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . . . X X X . . | $$ | . . . . X X 3 X . . . O . O . O X . . | $$ | . . X X . . 1 . . . . . . O . O . . . | $$ | . O O 6 5 . . . . . . . . . X O O . . | $$ | . . . O 4 O . . . , . . O X 8 X O . . | $$ | . . X . 2 . . . . . . . O X . 7 X X . | $$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . 9 X . . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . X . X . | $$ | . O . X . . . . . , . . O X . X . . . | $$ | . . O . . X . . X . . X O O . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Wcm71 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . . . X X X . . | $$ | . . . . X X 3 X . . . O . O . O X . . | $$ | . . X X . . 1 . . . . . . O . O . . . | $$ | . O O 6 5 . . . . . . . . . X O O . . | $$ | . . . O 4 O . d . , . . O X a X O . . | $$ | . . X . 2 . . . . . . . O X . 7 X X . | $$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . c X . b . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . e . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . X . X . | $$ | . O . X . . . . . , . . O X . X . . . | $$ | . . O . . X . . X . . X O O . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I'm a bit baffled by this move. On the one hand, it looks like it increases the aji if black responds passively, but on the other hand, I'm not sure that it's really sente if I can give up the one stone. I'd rather play one point below or ignore it completely and go for the outside in some manner. N8 looks like a good candidate to increase aji, or maybe an easy reducing move around H10, or a surrounding move like L6 or something. I think I like the reduction best, as it seems the most active.
[go]$$Wcm71 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X X O O . . . . . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . . . X X X . . | $$ | . . . . X X 3 X . . . O . O . O X . . | $$ | . . X X . . 1 . . . . . . O . O . . . | $$ | . O O 6 5 . . . . . . . . . X O O . . | $$ | . . . O 4 O 9 8 . , . . O X . X O . . | $$ | . . X . 2 . . 0 . . . . O X . 7 X X . | $$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . | $$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . X . X . | $$ | . O . X . . . . . , . . O X . X . . . | $$ | . . O . . X . . X . . X O O . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
In the interest of full disclosure, I accidentally saw the hidden text in the previous post, though I can't say that my analysis was much if any different.
I've been looking for a while to see if I could play one point above my previous move, but I think white can cut and fight favourably, so this looks to strengthen the stone in sente while sealing off part of the center. I'd love to be able to take d2 in sente as well, followed by L15. B16 would also be quite nice.
the question is how to further build the center while at same time reducing black bottom. I'm not sure at all the plan here is best, would like to read other's opinions on what to do at this point after the game...
or ignore it completely and go for the outside in some manner. N8 looks like a good candidate to increase aji, or maybe an easy reducing move around H10, or a surrounding move like L6 or something. I think I like the reduction best, as it seems the most active.