Judicata(b) vs. Jordus(w) Boardz game continuation

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[go]$$Bc Prisoners Black: 0 White: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . X . . |
$$ | . X . X O O X . . X . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O X X . . X O O O O O O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . , O X X X O X X . . |
$$ | . O O . X X . . O O . X . . X X . . . |
$$ | O X X X . . O X . . X . X X O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . O . . O . X X . O X X X . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . O X O B O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O . . O . O X . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . X . . . W X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O . O . . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . , . . X X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . X . O . O . O O O O O . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: Judicata(b) vs. Jordus(w) Boardz game continuation

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[go]$$Bc Prisoners Black: 0 White: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 5 X 6 X 3 X . . |
$$ | . X . X O O X . . X . . 4 7 2 . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O X X . . X O O O O O O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . , O X X X O X X . . |
$$ | . O O . X X . . O O . X . . X X . . . |
$$ | O X X X . . O X . . X . X X O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . O . . O . X X . O X X X . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . O X O 1 O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O . . O . O X . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . X . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O . O . . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . , . . X X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . X . O . O . O O O O O . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Black is connected only in ko 5. Dam i always think, why do they not see so obvious things and then i see they are 10-9k :)
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[go]$$Bc Prisoners Black: 0 White: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . X . . |
$$ | . X . X O O X . . X . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O X X B . X O O O O O O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . , O X X X O X X . . |
$$ | . O O . X X . . O O . X . . X X . . . |
$$ | O X X X . . O X . . X . X X O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . O . . O . X X . O X X X . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . O X O O O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O . . O . O X . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . X . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O . O . . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . , . . X X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . X . O . O . O O O O O . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Worst case scenario is that this is merely securing 8 points in gote (which is not great this point--don't get me wrong). As I mentioned before - I think white can link up with H18. But I worry that if white can cut black off somehow in the upper right, he won't have any eye space. If I feel this groups is secure, I can attack more comfortably.
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[go]$$Bc Prisoners Black: 0 White: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . X . . |
$$ | . X . X O O X . . X . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O X X X . X O O O O O O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . . O . , O X X X O X X . . |
$$ | . O O . X X W . O O . X . . X X . . . |
$$ | O X X X . . O X . . X . X X O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . O . . O . X X . O X X X . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . O X O O O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O . . O . O X . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . X . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O . O . . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . , . . X X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . X . O . O . O O O O O . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bc Prisoners Black: 0 White: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . X . . |
$$ | . X . X O O X . . X . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O X X X . X O O O O O O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . B O . , O X X X O X X . . |
$$ | . O O . X X O . O O . X . . X X . . . |
$$ | O X X X . . O X . . X . X X O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . O . . O . X X . O X X X . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . O X O O O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O . . O . O X . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . X . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O . O . . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . , . . X X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . X . O . O . O O O O O . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Have to connect.


EDIT: Forgot to mark move.
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[go]$$Bc Prisoners Black: 0 White: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . X . . |
$$ | . X . X O O X . . X . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O X X X . X O O O O O O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . X O . , O X X X O X X . . |
$$ | . O O . X X O . O O . X . . X X . . . |
$$ | O X X X . . O X . . X . X X O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . O . . O . X X . O X X X . . |
$$ | . X O W . . . . . O X O O O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O . . O . O X . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . X . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . O . O . . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . , . . X X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . X . O . O . O O O O O . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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There is a mistake in the last few game diagrams. One of the stones has the wrong colour.
A good system naturally covers all corner cases without further effort.
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N12 - my fault. I will correct it on my next move.
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[go]$$Bc Prisoners Black: 0 White: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . X . . |
$$ | . X . X O O X . . X . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O X X X . X O O O O O O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . X O . , O X X X O X X . . |
$$ | . O O . X X O . O O . X . . X X . . . |
$$ | O X X X . . O X . . X . X X O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . O . . O . X X . O X X X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . O X O X O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O . . O . O X . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . X . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . B O . O . . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . , . . X X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . X . O . O . O O O O O . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bc Prisoners Black: 0 White: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . X . . |
$$ | . X . X O O X . . X . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O X X X . X O O O O O O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . X O . , O X X X O X X . . |
$$ | . O O . X X O . O O . X . . X X . . . |
$$ | O X X X . . O X . . X . X X O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . O . . O . X X . O X X X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . O X O X O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O . . O . O X . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . X . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O W . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . O . . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . , . . X X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . X . O . O . O O O O O . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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I will post my move later today.

Okay, so now I've taken the time to count. His huge territory is bigger than mine, of course. Unless I can figure out a way to carve out at least 12-15 points, I should resign (I'm pretty sure we agreed on no komi, since he is stronger). So, I'll think for a bit and respond.
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[go]$$Bc Prisoners Black: 0 White: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . X . . |
$$ | . X . X O O X . . X . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O X X X . X O O O O O O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . X O . , O X X X O X X . . |
$$ | . O O . X X O . O O . X . . X X . . . |
$$ | O X X X . . O X . . X . X X O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . O . . O . X X . O X X X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . O X O X O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O . . O . O X . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . X . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X . B . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . O . . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . , . . X X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . X . O . O . O O O O O . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bc Prisoners Black: 0 White: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . X . . |
$$ | . X . X O O X . . X . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O X X X . X O O O O O O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . X O . , O X X X O X X . . |
$$ | . O O . X X O . O O . X . . X X . . . |
$$ | O X X X . . O X . . X . X X O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . O . . O . X X . O X X X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . O X O X O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O . . O . O X . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . X . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X . X W . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . O . . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . , . . X X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . X . O . O . O O O O O . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bc Prisoners Black: 0 White: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . X . . |
$$ | . X . X O O X . . X . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O X X X . X O O O O O O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . X O . , O X X X O X X . . |
$$ | . O O . X X O . O O . X . . X X . . . |
$$ | O X X X . . O X . . X . X X O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . O . . O . X X . O X X X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . O X O X O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O . . O . O X . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . X . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X B X O . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . O . . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . , . . X X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . X . O . O . O O O O O . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bc Prisoners Black: 0 White: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . X . . |
$$ | . X . X O O X . . X . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . X . O X X X . X O O O O O O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . . X O . , O X X X O X X . . |
$$ | . O O . X X O . O O . X . . X X . . . |
$$ | O X X X . . O X . . X . X X O O O . . |
$$ | . O O X . O . . O . X X . O X X X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . O X O X O . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . O . . O . O X . X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . X . . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O O . . O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X X X X O . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . X O . O . . . X . . X . |
$$ | . . . O X X . . . , . . X X O X X O . |
$$ | . . O X . . . X . O . O . O O O O O . |
$$ | . . O . X . . . W . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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