Pippen vs. whomever danplayer comes first here

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Re: Pippen vs. whomever danplayer comes first here

Post by Uberdude »

The protocol of this game seems to be: some dan player in a hidden says "How about this move, oh no it's bad", pippen then chooses that move for black, pippen plays a white move, pippen then decides he doesn't like it and undos and plays a different one.

Yet despite all these advantages white isn't winning. So perhaps this split style is not so amazing.
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Re: Pippen vs. whomever danplayer comes first here

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Uberdude wrote:Yet despite all these advantages white isn't winning. So perhaps this split style is not so amazing.


Or perhaps it's my playing strength that is not so amazing :).
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Re: Pippen vs. whomever danplayer comes first here

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Uberdude wrote:The protocol of this game seems to be: some dan player in a hidden says "How about this move, oh no it's bad", pippen then chooses that move for black, pippen plays a white move, pippen then decides he doesn't like it and undos and plays a different one.


Yeah, I thought some moves were meant to be discussion material of things that aren't so clear.

Anyway

*discussion*
I saw some nasty things if black played at white's move instead of connecting, was that an error? Now black weak shape... just one space jump and leave white with problems on top and the right?
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Re: Pippen vs. whomever danplayer comes first here

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Yeah I don't think much of "a", I think it's playable, but the turn just seems like it has more action. In any case, we're still in a great position, so I spose it's okay.
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Re: Pippen vs. whomever danplayer comes first here

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After the B turn; white hane, black empty triangle?
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Re: Pippen vs. whomever danplayer comes first here

Post by Violence »

I think I'm going to bow out and watch instead. I was under the impression that we could discuss what moves we were going to use with the hide tag, but if our move can just be selected by our opponent I don't really see a point in the discussion.


EDIT: I mean, isn't it just gg anyway?

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Re: Pippen vs. whomever danplayer comes first here

Post by Bill Spight »

Trigger.

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Re: Pippen vs. whomever danplayer comes first here

Post by Violence »

Wait wat

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Wouldn't we do this???
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Re: Pippen vs. whomever danplayer comes first here

Post by Bill Spight »

You are right, of course. :)

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Re: Pippen vs. whomever danplayer comes first here

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Re: Pippen vs. whomever danplayer comes first here

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B:6 W:0
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After reviewing I think my move 52 was a mistake. Should have played like in the variant of the sgf?
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Re: Pippen vs. whomever danplayer comes first here

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Pippen, if this IS a discussion, you should go with the currently discussed move...
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Re: Pippen vs. whomever danplayer comes first here

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Oh, ok...so I guess it's this:

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Re: Pippen vs. whomever danplayer comes first here

Post by Uberdude »

I give up on this game. I cannot discuss moves without Pippen playing bad moves for us.
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Re: Pippen vs. whomever danplayer comes first here

Post by Bill Spight »

{sigh}

All I can say is I apologize. :sad:

I see that Pippen has gone with the revision. As for discussing moves beforehand, Pippen did not sign up to play against a team. He wanted a Malkovich, but no one took him up on that. To some extent this game has become Pippen vs. The World. I am afraid that I have made things worse.
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