38. Laman (1d) vs. Magicwand (3d)

Magicwand · Post by **Magicwand** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:28 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm197 Move #197 - Prisoners: B=4, W=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . X O O . . X . X 8 7 . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . X O O . . . O X O O . . | $$ | . . . . X . . X X O . O . O X X O . . | $$ | . . . X . . X O X O . . O X . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . O X X X O . . | $$ | . . X . . X O O . . . . O X O X O . . | $$ | . . . . . X X O . . . . O O O X X O . | $$ | . . . . X O O O . . . O X X X . X O . | $$ | . . . . . X X O . . O O X . X 2 X O . | $$ | . . X X X . . X O , . . O O O 1 X O 5 | $$ | . . . X . X X X X O . O X X O O O X 6 | $$ | . . O X O . . X O . . O X O X X O X . | $$ | . . X O O O . O O O O . X . X . X . . | $$ | . . X X . . X . X O X X 9 X X X X X . | $$ | X X . X O O X X X O X O O O X . X . 4 | $$ | O X X X X O O X . X X . O X X O X X 3 | $$ | O O O O X O . O X X X O O X O . O O O | $$ | . . . . O . O . O X O O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Laman · Post by **Laman** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:37 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm206 Move #206 - Prisoners: B=4, W=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . X O O . . X . X X O . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . X O O . . . O X O O . . | $$ | . . . . X . . X X O . O . O X X O . . | $$ | . . . X . . X O X O . . O X . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . O X X X O . . | $$ | . . X . . X O O . . . . O X O X O . . | $$ | . . . . . X X O . . . . O O O X X O . | $$ | . . . . X O O O . . . O X X X . X O . | $$ | . . . . . X X O . . O O X . X X X O . | $$ | . . X X X . . X O , . . O O O O X O O | $$ | . . . X . X X X X O . O X X O O O X X | $$ | . . O X O . . X O . . O X O X X O X . | $$ | . . X O O O . O O O O B X . X . X . . | $$ | . . X X . . X . X O X X O X X X X X . | $$ | X X . X O O X X X O X O O O X . X . X | $$ | O X X X X O O X . X X . O X X O X X O | $$ | O O O O X O . O X X X O O X O . O O O | $$ | . . . . O . O . O X O O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

white made one more point compared to my count at move 192-194. he may make another one at K19 or N17, but i cannot see anything more for him, so i am probably going to win.
my alternative connection at G7 would be slightly worse than my actual move M7, because in diagram 1 white completely fixes his shape in sente, while after b M7 he has to either play G7 in gote or tenuki so i will get a chance to play G7 myself and white will later has to fix his shape by playing into his territory (-1 point)

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm1 Diagram 1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . X O O . . X . X X O . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . X O O . . . O X O O . . | $$ | . . . . X . . X X O . O . O X X O . . | $$ | . . . X . . X O X O . . O X . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . O X X X O . . | $$ | . . X . . X O O . . . . O X O X O . . | $$ | . . . . . X X O . . . . O O O X X O . | $$ | . . . . X O O O . . . O X X X . X O . | $$ | . . . . . X X O . . O O X . X X X O . | $$ | . . X X X . . X O , . . O O O O X O O | $$ | . . . X . X X X X O . O X X O O O X X | $$ | . . O X O . . X O . . O X O X X O X . | $$ | . . X O O O 1 O O O O 2 X 3 X . X . . | $$ | . . X X . . X . X O X X O X X X X X . | $$ | X X . X O O X X X O X O O O X . X . X | $$ | O X X X X O O X . X X . O X X O X X O | $$ | O O O O X O . O X X X O O X O . O O O | $$ | . . . . O . O . O X O O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

edit:

Magicwand · Post by **Magicwand** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 12:07 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm206 Move #206 - Prisoners: B=4, W=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . X O O . . X . X X O . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . X O O . . . O X O O . . | $$ | . . . . X . . X X O . O . O X X O . . | $$ | . . . X . . X O X O . . O X . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . O X X X O . . | $$ | . . X . . X O O . . . . O X O X O . . | $$ | . . . . . X X O . . . . O O O X X O . | $$ | . . . . X O O O . . . O X X X . X O . | $$ | . . . . . X X O . . O O X . X X X O . | $$ | . . X X X . . X O , . . O O O O X O O | $$ | . . . X . X X X X O . O X X O O O X X | $$ | . . O X O . . X O . . O X O X X O X . | $$ | . . X O O O W O O O O X X . X . X . . | $$ | . . X X . . X . X O X X O X X X X X . | $$ | X X . X O O X X X O X O O O X . X . X | $$ | O X X X X O O X . X X . O X X O X X O | $$ | O O O O X O . O X X X O O X O . O O O | $$ | . . . . O . O . O X O O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Laman · Post by **Laman** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 12:37 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm206 Move #208 - Prisoners: B=4, W=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . X O O . . X . X X O . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . X O O . B . O X O O . . | $$ | . . . . X . . X X O . O . O X X O . . | $$ | . . . X . . X O X O . . O X . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . O X X X O . . | $$ | . . X . . X O O . . . . O X O X O . . | $$ | . . . . . X X O . . . . O O O X X O . | $$ | . . . . X O O O . . . O X X X . X O . | $$ | . . . . . X X O . . O O X . X X X O . | $$ | . . X X X . . X O , . . O O O O X O O | $$ | . . . X . X X X X O . O X X O O O X X | $$ | . . O X O . . X O . . O X O X X O X . | $$ | . . X O O O O O O O O X X . X . X . . | $$ | . . X X . . X . X O X X O X X X X X . | $$ | X X . X O O X X X O X O O O X . X . X | $$ | O X X X X O O X . X X . O X X O X X O | $$ | O O O O X O . O X X X O O X O . O O O | $$ | . . . . O . O . O X O O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Magicwand · Post by **Magicwand** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 12:43 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm209 Move #209 - Prisoners: B=5, W=0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . X O O . 2 X . X X O . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . X O O 1 X . O X O O . . | $$ | . . . . X . . X X O . O . O X X O . . | $$ | . . . X . . X O X O . . O X . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . X X O O . . . O X X X O . . | $$ | . . X . . X O O . . . . O X O X O . . | $$ | . . . . . X X O . . . . O O O X X O . | $$ | . . . . X O O O . . . O X X X . X O . | $$ | . . . . . X X O . . O O X . X X X O . | $$ | . . X X X . . X O , . 5 O O O O X O O | $$ | . . . X . X X X X O . O X X O O O X X | $$ | . . O X O . . X O . . O X . X X O X . | $$ | . . X O O O O O O O O X X 4 X . X . . | $$ | . . X X . . X . X O X X O X X X X X . | $$ | X X . X O O X X X O X O O O X . X . X | $$ | O X X X X O O X . X X . O X X O X X O | $$ | O O O O X O . O X X X O O X O 3 O O O | $$ | . . . . O . O . O X O O . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

i really didnt count after knowing that i can not win this game... i am guessing i am down at least 2 points...probably 4. can you confirm it for me? i should have resigned earlier but it was almost to the end..i didnt feel the need.
thank you for good game.

Laman · Post by **Laman** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 2:38 pm

i agree, my rough count was about 4 or 5 for me
thank you for the game. you played well, for some time I wanted to resign and really didn't expect to win afterall.
i am looking forward to read through all comments

Magicwand · Post by **Magicwand** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 3:06 pm

you played well.
i thought my variation was enough to win. i guess i miscalculated.
sorry about not having much comment on the game.
as you already know..i am currently Malkovich junky.
and full time job and full time dad after work.
if you have any qusetion on the game i will be happy to elaborate best to my knowledge.

Laman · Post by **Laman** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 4:36 pm

Magicwand: i have absolutely no problem with your few comments, i have known your commenting style from your series with kirby (and those series were also for me the reason to play you, it seemed as a big challenge - and it really was). i am looking for playing you again at some point in the future (if you would be also interested), although not right now

ok, so i have read the comments and i can see (even from my own ones) that at some places i was really silly

. and funny observation is our feeling about the game until we count - i think i am losing and magicwand thinks he is winning

to the game:

my joseki in the upper right corner

Harlequin, move 24

topazg, move 30

w 75, 77, 79 were very nice and i like and recommend magicwand's comment following them (although i was able to figure those ideas from the moves and my feeling after them)

hane as move 82 - another very instructive idea, still the same mistake from me - being too afraid and caring too much about stones already played, not enough flexible

Magicwand's endless sente - i know i should follow the principle of mutual damage and not follow my oponent over the board but it seems i am bad at it. give me please some example of my least neccessary answers and what would have been better instead of them

Magicwand 116, 118

if anyone wants to comment (or ask about) anything i wrote, regardless who did i address it to, feel free to do so
thank you all for watching and i hope my comments were at least as beneficial and enjoyable for spectators as were spectators' comments for me

Magicwand · Post by **Magicwand** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 5:04 pm

116.
i had a feeling that i am comfortably ahead..and you answered all my ending without any effort to create variation.
i was wondering if my count was wrong..(i dont think i was wrong..i guess i played bad ending.. i am not sure..)

118
another move that surprised me. after this i was 100% sure i am ahead. (again.. i dont know how i lost this game.

)

i had an idea that you were down about 5 to 10 points and i expected you to try to twist and turn to makeup the points..

i am curious. what was your count at that moment?

moral of the game.. COUNT and COUNT AGAIN!

edit: i was really comfortable until i count at the end.. and realized i was down about 5~8 points.
if i knew early i would have tried to invade the top left corner or something.

Laman · Post by **Laman** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:08 am

Magicwand, move 118:

Laman wrote:hell, again i almost resigned and again careful count showed it was quite even [posted at move 116]

i counted the score about even (which was precise to, let say, 5 points), so S11-R11 exchange hurted me, but my upper group was (in my eyes) close to death, so i thought R11 to make an eyeshape was unavoidable in order to at least continue and not to lose immediately

Life In 19x19

38. Laman (1d) vs. Magicwand (3d)

Re: 38. Laman (1d) vs. Magicwand (3d)

Re: 38. Laman (1d) vs. Magicwand (3d)

Re: 38. Laman (1d) vs. Magicwand (3d)

Re: 38. Laman (1d) vs. Magicwand (3d)

Re: 38. Laman (1d) vs. Magicwand (3d)

Re: 38. Laman (1d) vs. Magicwand (3d)

Re: 38. Laman (1d) vs. Magicwand (3d)

Re: 38. Laman (1d) vs. Magicwand (3d)

Re: 38. Laman (1d) vs. Magicwand (3d)

Re: 38. Laman (1d) vs. Magicwand (3d)