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interesting experience. :)



Don't you mean excrutiating? XD

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Post #122 Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 1:54 am 
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I definitely think disrespect has its place in handicap games, but it has to be the right kind of disrespect.


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$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
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$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
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$$ | . . . . X . X X O 2 . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . X . . O . |
$$ | . . X X X O . O O X . . . . O X X O . |
$$ | . X O O X O . . . X . . X X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]


This is the wrong kind of disrespect. The only way for this move to pay off is if your opponent who is six stones weaker than you are misreads a ladder AND calls you out on it.

In other words, you're trying to make him brave but hope that he can't read. This is kinda inconsistent, people usually make moves in confidence with reading. If he plays any other move that strengthens the lower left group, you've just done absolutely nothing. In other words, making him scared hurts you.

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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . X . . O . . X . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . 2 . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X X O . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . X . . O . |
$$ | . . X X X O . O O X . . . . O X X O . |
$$ | . X O O X O . . . X . . X X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]


In my opinion, this is the right kind of disrespect. The entire aim of this move is to be a little suboptimal but make your opponent confused.

Does it break the ladder? Does it threaten my stones? Should I add a move? Where do I add a move?

And the thing about this move, if your opponent acts scared, this works to your advantage. Even IF he plays the correct move, he's still not sure of the intent of this move. He is entirely unsure of whether or not this move has a purpose, it doesn't look like a 100% bad move to someone 6 stones weaker than you are, and it makes them second guess themselves.

One of the big goals in a handimatch is to maintain this... feeling of unease and uncertainty, I'm reminded of zawazawa if you guys read or watch any of Fukumoto Nobuyuki's series, you know what I mean.

If your goal is disrespect, it has to be done in a way that both tries to make your opponent more uneasy, and it has to make it so that the most likely lines of play from your opponent are not obviously good for them.

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paK0, Hmmm.

Unrelated: what's the meaning of the username, "pa-K-zero" ? :)

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paK0, Hmmm.

Unrelated: what's the meaning of the username, "pa-K-zero" ? :)


It is pronounced pako, but when I chose the name I was young and though leetspeak was cool, so I stylized it to paK0. I have used the handle for about 10 years or so, so I guess I'll just keep it that way :tmbup:

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Post #125 Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 5:31 pm 
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What are you afraid of? ;)


Spiders! I've lost count of how many times they've feasted on my eyelids at night!!


You can give 9 stones to any spider, easy. ;)



Not if he loses his eyes.

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$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
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$$ | . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X X O . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . X . . O . |
$$ | . . X X X O . O O X . . . . O X X O . |
$$ | . X O O X O . . . X . . X X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
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Post #127 Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:49 pm 
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But I would have like the hane more.

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Post #128 Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 6:30 am 
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Ed, now you're teasing me with invisible messages! Do I need to find my old Captain Midnight decoder ring? :lol:

Let the dogs out. It's 14 F here now; I don't know what the low reached. Brrr!

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$$ | . . O X . . X . . O . . X . . X O . . |
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$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
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$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . 1 O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X X O . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . X . . O . |
$$ | . . X X X O . O O X . . . . O X X O . |
$$ | . X O O X O . . . X . . X X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]


It was too late to think about a move after watching the football game last night. In bed, however, I started worrying about how little actual territory Black has versus White and that White can still get to the center from several directions. This morning, after first considering D11 and B13 to keep White separated, and F9 and F10 to block, as well as S5 and K15, I just decided to make a bit of territory with C8. Other than playing experience, I have no idea how to narrow my candidate moves down and, even more important, how to judge among them.

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14°F ( -10°C ) !






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Post #130 Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 7:49 pm 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . X . . O . . X . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X X O . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . X . . O . |
$$ | . . X X X O . O O X . . . . O X X O . |
$$ | . X O O X O . . . X . . X X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]


I am glad that one of Bill's candidates was K-15, which would be my sealed move. :)

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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . X . . O . . X . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . 1 . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X X O . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . X . . O . |
$$ | . . X X X O . O O X . . . . O X X O . |
$$ | . X O O X O . . . X . . X X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]


As for a territorial play, the one space jump to O-10 is good, building a large territorial framework in the bottom right quadrant.

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Post #131 Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 8:18 pm 
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12 F now and heading lower over night. I believe a record for this date here in Northwest Indiana.

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12°F ( -11.1°C ) ! :-?

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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . X . . O . . X . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 1 X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X X O . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . X . . O . |
$$ | . . X X X O . O O X . . . . O X X O . |
$$ | . X O O X O . . . X . . X X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
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Post #133 Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 6:28 am 
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11 °F (-1.7 °C ) this morning, Ed. And more snow in the forecast. Can't wait for January... :roll:

Sometime I read something about how much territory each move should gain on average--maybe only in the earlier parts of the game? It might have been in a book, online at senseis, or maybe even here at L19. Do any of you (Bill?) know what I'm babbling about? :D

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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . X . . O . . X . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 1 . X . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X X O . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . X . . O . |
$$ | . . X X X O . O O X . . . . O X X O . |
$$ | . X O O X O . . . X . . X X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]


I briefly considered getting tricky with C9. However, after White plays B9 and Black responds with B7, I think we get about the same position but in gote for Black. I know I'm giving ground here and there, but I'm trying to avoid unnecessary fights and counting on my initial handicap to keep me in the game.

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Post #134 Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 7:35 am 
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I just decided to make a bit of territory with C8. Other than playing experience, I have no idea how to narrow my candidate moves down and, even more important, how to judge among them.


Well obviously how to narrow candidate moves and judge the results is a huge and complex process, but here is a way to start. You said you played c8 to get a bit of territory. How much? Roughly? What about the other moves you thought about, how big an area would they get you? Territory is not the only consideration, strength of groups / attacking / defending are also very important, but if one move gets you 4 points of territory and another gets you 20 then you should probably get the larger :) .

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Post #135 Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 8:48 am 
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Except for S6, I didn't think any of my other candidate moves actually made any territory. Now that you mention it, though, perhaps I should be making a moyo! I've put it out-of-mind so far because the center (or centre to you Brits) seemed so open. If I'm right, don't cheat with any more "shown" advice. If I'm wrong, just leave me oblivious until the end! Thank you. :D

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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . X . . O . . X . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 1 3 X . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X X O . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . X . . O . |
$$ | . . X X X O . O O X . . . . O X X O . |
$$ | . X O O X O . . . X . . X X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]


Presumably White will continue like this and then tenuki.

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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . X . . O . . X . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X a . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . 2 1 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 3 5 X . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X X O . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . X . . O . |
$$ | . . X X X O . O O X . . . . O X X O . |
$$ | . X O O X O . . . X . . X X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]


Bill considered this sequence gote for Black, not realizing the value of the threat for Black at "a". By implication, he considered his play to be sente for Black.

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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . X . . O . . X . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . 2 1 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 5 4 X . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 7 6 . X . X X O . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . a . . . . . O X X . . . . X . . O . |
$$ | . . X X X O . O O X . . . . O X X O . |
$$ | . X O O X O . . . X . . X X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]


But the sequence I hoped that he might consider is :b62: - :b64: here. Not that he would have found the answer to :w65:, but how could he find it if the chance never arises?

Edit: :w65: might be at "a", but that's another story. :)

Edit: Unhidden.

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Post #137 Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 3:37 pm 
Lives in gote

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BTW, at 11 F and a steady wind between 22 and 25 mph, the wind chill here was about -10 F. (I think we hit a high of 18 F today.) All I can say is, at least I don't live in Buffalo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxuacZudBPU

I hope you are enjoying better weather where you are, Ed!

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Hi Aidoneus, your temperatures are crazy.
It's 66°F ( 19°C ) here this morning, with a high of 24°C ( 75°F ) today. :)
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . X . . O . . X . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X X O . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . X . . O . |
$$ | . . X X X O . O O X . . . . O X X O . |
$$ | . X O O X O . . . X . . X X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
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Post #139 Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 5:56 pm 
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My [stones] death was greatly exaggerated. Your board left off my last move. ;-)

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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . X . . O . . X . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X 1 X . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X X O . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . X . . O . |
$$ | . . X X X O . O O X . . . . O X X O . |
$$ | . X O O X O . . . X . . X X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]


I believe White's last move was gote, since he (White's always she, though!) needs to protect the cut. Then I can try calling the tune for a change.

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$$ | . . O X . . X . . O . . X . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . 1 X . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . X X O . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . X . . O . |
$$ | . . X X X O . O O X . . . . O X X O . |
$$ | . X O O X O . . . X . . X X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . X O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
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