19. Magicwand (3d) vs. Dusk Eagle (1k)

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Re: Malk #19 - magicwand (3d) vs. Dusk Eagle (1k)

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[go]$$c Move 62
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . O , O X X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . |
$$ | . . W O . . . . . . . O X . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

only one move. i will wait till he makes his the move. whatever path he takes i dont know but i dont see anything that will save black group.

i talk about the feeling manytimes before. my feeling is that spliting my two white stones as he did... it is not good. so kyu level players take a note. what black played is wrong.
do not make that kind of mistake and pretend that everything is ok. to convince doubter 4d+ please second my feeling :)
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Re: Malk #19 - magicwand (3d) vs. Dusk Eagle (1k)

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Sorry, I'm busy this evening and need more time before I'm ready to play my next move.
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Re: Malk #19 - magicwand (3d) vs. Dusk Eagle (1k)

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[go]$$c Move 62
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . O , O X X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . O X . X O O . . |
$$ | . . B X X . . . . . . X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


So, I'll go with this:
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[go]$$Wc Move 62
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 2 . . . . . X O X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . O , O X X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . O X . X O O . . |
$$ | . 1 X X X . . . . . . X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I rejected my other move for the following reason:
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[go]$$c Move 62
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . O , O X X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . |
$$ | . 1 O O . . . . . . . O X . X O O . . |
$$ | . 4 2 X X . . . . . . X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . 3 O . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Man, I'm really not sure what I should be doing right now. It's hard to play moves you're uncertain of in slow games like this. Oh well, whatever happens, happens!
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Re: Malk #19 - magicwand (3d) vs. Dusk Eagle (1k)

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[go]$$c Move 65
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . O , O X X X . X . . . |
$$ | . W X . . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . O X . X O O . . |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . . . X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: Malk #19 - magicwand (3d) vs. Dusk Eagle (1k)

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[go]$$c Move 66
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . B . . . . . X O X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . O , O X X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . O X . X O O . . |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . . . X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I just want to live in this area, and what better way to live than with 3-3? I was thinking of bending over the top like below, but that just makes it harder to live there. However, I may aim for it when I get the chance.
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[go]$$c Move 66 alternate
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 3 4 . . . . X O X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . O , O X X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X 2 . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O O 1 . . . . . . O X . X O O . . |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . . . X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: Malk #19 - magicwand (3d) vs. Dusk Eagle (1k)

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[go]$$c Move 67
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X O X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . O , O X X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . O X . X O O . . |
$$ | . W X X X . . . . . . X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

nothing much to say..everything is only move for me.
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[go]$$c Move 68
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X O X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . O , O X X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . O X . X O O . . |
$$ | . O X X X . . . . . . X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . B . O . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I think the ko is rather risky. He may be able to kill my entire left side group by ignoring a ko threat. However, I at least get to observe one ko threat by him.
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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X O X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . O , O X X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . |
$$ | 4 . O O . . . . . . . O X . X O O . . |
$$ | 3 O X X X . . . . . . X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . 1 . O . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . 2 . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$c Diagram A
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X O X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . O , O X X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . |
$$ | O 1 O O . . . . . . . O X . X O O . . |
$$ | X . X X X . . . . . . X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . O . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O b X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X a . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

The thing with him playing 2 though is that he'd rather play at 'a' first - if I block at 'b', he could follow the diagram below, and things look ugly for me.

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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X O X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . O , O X X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . O X . X O O . . |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . . . X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O B X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X W . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . 3 . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X 6 4 5 . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X 1 8 9 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

However, once he's played 2 in diagram 'A', I can block W 'a' with B 'b' just fine. However, if he is to play 'b' directly, I do not think it would be a big enough ko threat.

So, I'm fine with that ko threat. He also won't want to clamp for his ko threat, as that will lose him many points on the bottom.

Anyway, my point is, I want to see where he'll play a ko threat. Even if I don't make a threat of my own, and simply connect and allow him to capture, it will be basically the same as following the diagram below:
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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . 5 . . X O X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . O , O X X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . |
$$ | O . O O . . . . . . . O X . X O O . . |
$$ | . O X X X . . . . . . X O X X . . . . |
$$ | 4 3 1 O . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . 2 . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: Malk #19 - magicwand (3d) vs. Dusk Eagle (1k)

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[go]$$c Move 69
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . W . . . X O X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . O , O X X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . O X . X O O . . |
$$ | . O X X X . . . . . . X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

ko at 3 is too risky and i dont need them to win.
my move is very strong move. i expect him to play as below and expect below variation.
may be not...but whatever outcome it may be ...can not be good for black.
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[go]$$c Move 69
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X 5 W . . . X O X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 4 1 7 . . O , O X X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . 6 . . . . . O O X . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . O X . X O O . . |
$$ | . O X X X . . . . . . X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X 2 O 8 . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . 3 . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: Malk #19 - magicwand (3d) vs. Dusk Eagle (1k)

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[go]$$c Move 70
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . B . . . . O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . X O X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . O , O X X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . O X . X O O . . |
$$ | . O X X X . . . . . . X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

The only move in my opinion. The game will very likely play out like this:
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[go]$$Wc Continuation
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 4 . 2 X 1 . . . O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . b X . O 3 a . X O X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . O , O X X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X c . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . O X . X O O . . |
$$ | . O X X X . . . . . . X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

If 3 at 'a', I can peep and then make it harder for him to connect his group. If '4' at 'b', there is a ton of bad aji with W playing at :b4: - for instance, a white play at 'c' is sente:
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[go]$$Wc Move 69
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 2 1 . X X O . . . O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X . O O . . X O X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 4 . , . . . . O , O X X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X W . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . O X . X O O . . |
$$ | . O X X X . . . . . . X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: Malk #19 - magicwand (3d) vs. Dusk Eagle (1k)

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[go]$$c Move 71
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . X O X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , W . . . O , O X X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . O X . X O O . . |
$$ | . O X X X . . . . . . X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Wc if i play 1 then i dont want him to play 2. it will make the game too complicated. so what i played is good enough. something about my move...that doesnt seem right i dont know what it is...but even if there is something wrong..my opponent is not strong enough to figure that out. i am curious what he will answer.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X 1 . . . O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O 2 . . X O X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . O , O X X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . O X . X O O . . |
$$ | . O X X X . . . . . . X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: Malk #19 - magicwand (3d) vs. Dusk Eagle (1k)

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[go]$$c Move 72
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X B . . . O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . X O X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . O , O X X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . O X . X O O . . |
$$ | . O X X X . . . . . . X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Woah. Maybe he was afraid of this?
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X 1 . . . O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O 3 . . X O X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , 2 . . . O , O X X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X 4 . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . O X . X O O . . |
$$ | . O X X X . . . . . . X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I didn't see this before, but it does seem rather scary for him. Oh well, now, I get to break into this area and ruin any chances he has for profit there. Overall, this game seems to be going quite well for me so far - I have 28 points in the upper right, 20ish guaranteed points on the bottom, and maybe another 15 or so points between my other two groups. He has 22-ish points on the right, 14ish points on the left, and 18-ish points in the middle. B+9 at this point? There's still some large areas to play, such as the bottom right, top right, middle, left-side... okay, all over the board there are big places, and a lot of miai relations exist.
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[go]$$Wc Count approximation
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | b b b b b b . . . . . . b b b b b b b |
$$ | . . . . X X . . . O X X b b b b b b b |
$$ | . . X . O . . . X O X O b b b b . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . O w O X X X b X . . . |
$$ | . O X 4 . . . . w w O O X b O X . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . w w w O X b X O O . . |
$$ | . O X X X . . . w w w X O X X . . w w |
$$ | . X . O b . . . w w w w O . . O . w w |
$$ | . . . b b X . O . . . . . . . . w w w |
$$ | . . . b b . . . . , . . . . . , w w w |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O w w |
$$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . w w w |
$$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . w w w |
$$ | w w O O X . . b b . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | w w . . X . . b b . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | w O . X b b b b b X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | w w O X b b b b b . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | w O . O X . . b b . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | w w w . . . . b b . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: Malk #19 - magicwand (3d) vs. Dusk Eagle (1k)

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[go]$$c Move 73
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X X . . . O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . X O X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . O , O X X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . O X . X O O . . |
$$ | . O X X X . . . . . . X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X W O . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$c ladder black dies.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X X . . . O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . X O X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . O , O X X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X 8 7 9 0 . . . O O X . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O O 5 6 . . . . . O X . X O O . . |
$$ | . O X X X 4 . . . . . X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X W O 2 3 . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . 1 . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$c this doesnt look good either.
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X X . . . O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . X O X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . O , O X X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . . O X . X O O . . |
$$ | . O X X X 3 . . . . . X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X W O 2 . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . 1 . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: Malk #19 - magicwand (3d) vs. Dusk Eagle (1k)

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[go]$$c Move 74
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X X . . . O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . X O X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . O , O X X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O O B . . . . . . O X . X O O . . |
$$ | . O X X X . . . . . . X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Well, it sucks that I missed this move, but all is not lost. I've chosen to start a complex fight, but I also could've have sacrificed four stones by playing as below:
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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X X . . . O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . X O X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . O , O X X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O O . 8 . . . . . O X . X O O . . |
$$ | . O X X X 3 6 . . . . X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O 2 4 5 . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . 1 . . 7 X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Each of us woke up one moment and here we were in the darkness.
We're nameless things with no memory; no knowledge of what went before,
No understanding of what is now, no knowledge of what will be.
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Re: Malk #19 - magicwand (3d) vs. Dusk Eagle (1k)

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[go]$$c Move 75
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X X . . . O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . X O X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . O , O X X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . O X . X O O . . |
$$ | . O X X X . . . . . . X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . W . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

let see how he will play.
"The more we think we know about
The greater the unknown"

Words by neil peart, music by geddy lee and alex lifeson
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Re: Malk #19 - magicwand (3d) vs. Dusk Eagle (1k)

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[go]$$c Move 76
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . X X . . . O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . X O X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . O , O X X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X B . . . . . . O O X . O X . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . O X . X O O . . |
$$ | . O X X X . . . . . . X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . O . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Wc
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 0 . 8 X X . . . O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 9 X 7 O . . . X O X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , O . . . O , O X X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X 3 . . . . . O O X . O X . . . |
$$ | . 1 O O X . . . . . . O X . X O O . . |
$$ | . O X X X . . . . . . X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O 2 . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . O 5 4 . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 6 , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Wm11c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X 2 X X X . . . O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O O . . . X O X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 1 , O . . . O , O X X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X X O . . . . . O O X . O X . . . |
$$ | . O O O X . . . . . . O X . X O O . . |
$$ | . O X X X . . . . . . X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O X . . . . . . . O . . O . . . |
$$ | . O O X . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X O O O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . X . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Will it happen like this?
We don't know who we are; we don't know where we are.
Each of us woke up one moment and here we were in the darkness.
We're nameless things with no memory; no knowledge of what went before,
No understanding of what is now, no knowledge of what will be.
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