12 years without Hans Pietsch

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12 years without Hans Pietsch

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Today, 16 of january, is a twelfth anniversary of his death.

When I was studying in Mexico (july of 2013-june of 2014), in "Dia de muertos" (pays tribute to the deceased), one friend and me replay his game with Yoda Norimoto. I want share you his game now, because I think that it is a beautiful game and I learned a lot with it (only I can say that I love move 73, I knew it thanks to Hans).




Source of game:
https://gogameguru.com/go-commentary-ha ... st-lg-cup/
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Re: 12 years without Hans Pietsch

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Maybe Yoda hired ninjas to assassinate Hans?

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Re: 12 years without Hans Pietsch

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Maybe you should reflect on the poor taste of that joke.
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Re: 12 years without Hans Pietsch

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Uberdude wrote:Maybe you should reflect on the poor taste of that joke.
I didn't mean anything bad by that. Hans was a great player and it was a shame he was killed.

But then again, whenever I see Yoda I get scared. However since Yoda is like a samurai he probably wouldn't hire sneaky ninjas.
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Re: 12 years without Hans Pietsch

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Krama wrote:
Uberdude wrote:Maybe you should reflect on the poor taste of that joke.
I didn't mean [whatever] [..] But [..]
By this you are following a notorious scheme of “but” sentences. I’m sure that you’d reconsider if you knew how ugly this looks “from the outside”. But as Uberdude says, this would require some reflection.
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Re: 12 years without Hans Pietsch

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Bonobo wrote:
Krama wrote:
Uberdude wrote:Maybe you should reflect on the poor taste of that joke.
I didn't mean [whatever] [..] But [..]
By this you are following a notorious scheme of “but” sentences. I’m sure that you’d reconsider if you knew how ugly this looks “from the outside”. But as Uberdude says, this would require some reflection.
Ohh, come on. Why are you trying to make me look bad. It was a joke, I didn't mean anything disrespectful by it.

If you can't see the humor by imagining Yoda being angry and sitting in his temple ordering ninjas around, then bad news for you.

Why don't we reflect at the current French satire?
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Re: 12 years without Hans Pietsch

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Getting back to the game, does everyone agree with the OP that this was a "beautiful" game, or a "masterpiece" (the description by An Younggil)?

It was a well played opening and middle game by black, but according to An's commentary, white played a relatively soft game, confident he'd win in the end game. So the game seemed to lack the back and forth that one expects in a classic or masterpiece. In other words, it takes two to make a masterpiece, and Yoda didn't really play his part. Furthermore, while black played the early parts of the game well, he made quite a few mistakes in the end game.
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Re: 12 years without Hans Pietsch

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quantumf wrote:Getting back to the game, does everyone agree with the OP that this was a "beautiful" game, or a "masterpiece" (the description by An Younggil)?

It was a well played opening and middle game by black, but according to An's commentary, white played a relatively soft game, confident he'd win in the end game. So the game seemed to lack the back and forth that one expects in a classic or masterpiece. In other words, it takes two to make a masterpiece, and Yoda didn't really play his part. Furthermore, while black played the early parts of the game well, he made quite a few mistakes in the end game.
It is possible. I said that it is beautiful because I love this game because it gives memories me :oops: . Even Yoda could be outdone because he played with a western player (or he wanted to win the minimum points and he failed...).
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Re: 12 years without Hans Pietsch

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Who did the commentary?
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The game was published in Go World with a commentary by his teacher (Kobayashi Satoru?). I remember it said white played the fuseki a bit as if it was a teaching game.

I remember well when Hans Pietsch's death was announced even if I had started playing only a few months before and didn't know him at all.
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Re: 12 years without Hans Pietsch

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Bill Spight wrote:Who did the commentary?
An Younggil 8p over at gogameguru.com (when he asked readers to suggest a game to comment).
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Re: 12 years without Hans Pietsch

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Uberdude wrote:
Bill Spight wrote:Who did the commentary?
An Younggil 8p over at gogameguru.com (when he asked readers to suggest a game to comment).

Oh, it was a accident. I forgot put the source of game, I will edit to put it.
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Re: 12 years without Hans Pietsch

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quantumf wrote:Getting back to the game, does everyone agree with the OP that this was a "beautiful" game, or a "masterpiece" (the description by An Younggil)?

It was a well played opening and middle game by black, but according to An's commentary, white played a relatively soft game, confident he'd win in the end game. So the game seemed to lack the back and forth that one expects in a classic or masterpiece. In other words, it takes two to make a masterpiece, and Yoda didn't really play his part. Furthermore, while black played the early parts of the game well, he made quite a few mistakes in the end game.
From what I've read in other sources, a lot of Yoda's games are that way. His style is preferring tight close games that go into endgame rather than pushing for more advantage.
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Re: 12 years without Hans Pietsch

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Krama wrote:.

Ohh, come on. Why are you trying to make me look bad. It was a joke, I didn't mean anything disrespectful by it.

If you can't see the humor by imagining Yoda being angry and sitting in his temple ordering ninjas around, then bad news for you.

Why don't we reflect at the current French satire?
Riiiight... it is hilarious cracking jokes about a person's death, on the anniversary of their death, to a community of people who were close to the deceased. That is pure comedy gold right there.

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Post by EdLee »

Since we're touching on tragedy and comedy --
and between them what a fine line it is indeed --
here's a little gem once shared by a drama teacher:

Comedy and tragedy (or horror) actually have the same basic structure:
First, the setup, and then the surprise.

One big difference is in comedy, we look forward to the surprise (the joke, the punch line, the pay-off moment.)
Whereas in tragedy or horror, we dread it. (Some people close their eyes to avoid the inevitable moment.)
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