pincer mistake?

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pincer mistake?

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My DB doesn't have :w8: , so I assume it's a mistake. What's the best move for black?
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[go]$$Bm What I played in the game
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This is what I played, to steal the eye, but now I don't want to take gote to keep that stone alive.
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Re: pincer mistake?

Post by Abyssinica »

Maybe you just extend along the side like if white had played your :b1: move like he was supposed to first and treat this exchange lightly cause it already kind of cramps him?
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Re: pincer mistake?

Post by ez4u »

emeraldemon wrote:
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$B
$$ +----------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . 8 7 . . . . . . .
$$ | . . 4 1 . . 5 . . . .
$$ | . . . 6 . . . . . , .
$$ | . . . 2 . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . 3 . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .[/go]
My DB doesn't have :w8: , so I assume it's a mistake. What's the best move for black?
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bm What I played in the game
$$ +----------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . .
$$ | . . O X . . X . . . .
$$ | . 2 . O . . . . . , .
$$ | . 1 . O . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .[/go]
This is what I played, to steal the eye, but now I don't want to take gote to keep that stone alive.
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bm What I played in the game
$$ +----------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . .
$$ | . . O X . . X . . . .
$$ | . 2 . O . . . . . , .
$$ | . 1 3 O . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . .[/go]
You think 1 is sente but 3 is gote? :scratch:
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Re: pincer mistake?

Post by Abyssinica »

Whoops, I got convinced too.
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Re: pincer mistake?

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Thanks ez4u, I was only thinking of connecting directly. Do you think that with your :b3: it is a good result for black? Is there a better move?
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Re: pincer mistake?

Post by ez4u »

emeraldemon wrote:Thanks ez4u, I was only thinking of connecting directly. Do you think that with your :b3: it is a good result for black? Is there a better move?
This is a good result and is the standard explanation for why White can't descend immediately at 8 in your original diagram. Your decision to slide into the corner was good. :tmbup:
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