Antti Makes it to A class

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Re: Antti Makes it to A class

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Who is at #17?
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Re: Antti Makes it to A class

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hyperpape wrote:Who is at #17?
Nikola Mitic
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Re: Antti Makes it to A class

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hyperpape wrote:Who is at #17?
Presumably, Nikola Mitic from Serbia?

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Re: Antti Makes it to A class

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A-Class, September:

1-Hirose Yuichi, 14 (this month)
2-Kurita Yushiki, 16
3-Ueno Asami, 13*
4-Suzurika Toshimasa, 17
5-Aoki Hirotaka, 14
6-Törmänen Antti, 26
7-Kawaguchi Hishou, 13
8-Ikemoto Ryouta, 14 (this month)
9-Kuwahara Shun, 16
10-Suzuki Tomohiro, 13

http://www.nihonkiin.or.jp.e.qs.hp.tran ... ei/joretu/
The preliminaries for the Winter pro-exam season has begun. The ten B class insei (including Nikola Mitic) Join 6 outsiders in a round-robin. All A Class insei are seeded into the main round. Let the battle begin.

http://www.nihonkiin.or.jp.e.qs.hp.tran ... _godo.html

*For comparison, Fujisawa Rina 3p never managed to stay in the A class.
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Re: Antti Makes it to A class

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This is rather impressive.

Why do you mark Antti as a 25-year old? Is the Nihon Ki'In counting him as 26 because they use the Japanese age system?

As a side note, why so many 13 years old? The best player younger than 13 is in C class. Seems like a golden generation.
I always assumed that Mr Fujsawa must have ran a Go school (a very honourable one). Is this the case?
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Jhyn wrote:This is rather impressive.

Why do you mark Antti as a 25-year old? Is the Nihon Ki'In counting him as 26 because they use the Japanese age system?
Antti is 26 years old by western counting.
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Re: Antti Makes it to A class

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John Fairbairn wrote:Did nobody else notice that Fujisawa Kazunari (son of Hideyuki) is cited as teacher for 25 out of the 64 insei listed.
I'm not up to date but years ago the Nihon Ki-in established an insei center in Chiba(?). Various established pros were described in the yearbook as insei instructors. Maybe Fujisawa Kazunari is/was such an instructor. Inseis don't have to be disciples (deshis) of anyone but can just get teaching at the insei center.
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Re: Antti Makes it to A class

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Jhyn wrote:This is rather impressive.

Why do you mark Antti as a 25-year old? Is the Nihon Ki'In counting him as 26 because they use the Japanese age system?

As a side note, why so many 13 years old? The best player younger than 13 is in C class. Seems like a golden generation.
I always assumed that Mr Fujsawa must have ran a Go school (a very honourable one). Is this the case?
According to Sensei's Library, he runs the Shinjuku Igo Dojo.
http://senseis.xmp.net/?FujisawaKazunari
Oh yes, a mistake was made. I accidentally used the ages in august as well.

Thanks for the link!
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Re: Antti Makes it to A class

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http://blog.goo.ne.jp/kiin5/e/167a61f51 ... 044077dc35

Short article about Antti getting ready for the tournament

https://www.nihonkiin.or.jp/player/saiy ... onsen.html

Current results for pro tournament. Antti is now 2-0.
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oren wrote:
https://www.nihonkiin.or.jp/player/saiy ... onsen.html

Current results for pro tournament. Antti is now 2-0.
I can't read Japanese. In the first round, did Antti win against a non-insei who passed the preliminaries? In his performance last year, he didn't seem to have a chance against these non-inseis, especially the ones who passed the prelims in the end. Looks to me, he stepped up his game.

Is the ordering 1 to 16 by chance, according to strength or alphabet (if it is called that way, anyway)?
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bayu wrote: Is the ordering 1 to 16 by chance, according to strength or alphabet (if it is called that way, anyway)?
I thought it was seeds at first... but hard to tell. Here are October positions from Nihon Kiin insei.

http://www.nihonkiin.or.jp/player/insei/joretu/

So top insei is 14
Second is 2
Third is 1
Fourth is 12

So maybe just a jumble up.

4 of Antti's opponents will be half his age.
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oren wrote:
bayu wrote: Is the ordering 1 to 16 by chance, according to strength or alphabet (if it is called that way, anyway)?
I thought it was seeds at first... but hard to tell. Here are October positions from Nihon Kiin insei.

http://www.nihonkiin.or.jp/player/insei/joretu/

So top insei is 14
Second is 2
Third is 1
Fourth is 12

So maybe just a jumble up.

4 of Antti's opponents will be half his age.
I am pretty sure the ordering for the tournament chart is by a drawing at the beginning.
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Re: Antti Makes it to A class

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I am very excited by this and will follow it more closely than the rugby World cup.
It is kind of sad that there is no way to see the games (let alone in live), but this is a bit much to ask.

2-0 is a good start but of course it is only the beginning. I guess the future pros will have 1 or 2 defeats at the end of the tournament.

Exploring a little bit I found that Nicola Mitic participated in the preliminary tournament and was one win away from qualifying for the main tournament:
http://www.nihonkiin.or.jp/player/saiyo ... _godo.html
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It's interesting to note that Shibano Toramanu, recently promoted to 2p dan, who last year struck me with the rate of his progress since promotion to 1p, has finally made it to two wins away from entering the Meijin League, after defeating Seto Taiki 7p, (he next plays Ichiriki 7p the winner of which plays Cho/Hane 9p,), two wins away from entering the Tengen tournament, and one win away from entering the Gosei tournament, defeating Fujita Akhiko 4d. Well done :bow: :salute: :scratch: !
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Re: Antti Makes it to A class

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If anyone is following this, Antti is now sitting at 3/4 with a loss against a non-insei player.

There are now two insei at 4/4 and 3 players at 3/4 including Antti and his non-insei opponent. Remind that the players with the best two scores become pros.
Three players have postponed one or two games but they have two defeats each.
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