Will someone play the killing game with me?

Kirby · Post by **Kirby** » Sat Aug 06, 2016 1:10 pm

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DrStraw · Post by **DrStraw** » Sat Aug 06, 2016 1:59 pm

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Kirby · Post by **Kirby** » Sat Aug 06, 2016 2:05 pm

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DrStraw · Post by **DrStraw** » Sat Aug 06, 2016 2:22 pm

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He had an excuse - he was playing a pro.

Kirby · Post by **Kirby** » Sat Aug 06, 2016 2:24 pm

Guess I don't need to use hide tags :-p

Anyway, I'll see what I can come up with.

Kirby · Post by **Kirby** » Sat Aug 06, 2016 2:26 pm

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DrStraw · Post by **DrStraw** » Sat Aug 06, 2016 3:28 pm

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Don't know about you but I am playing by instinct and intuition.

Kirby · Post by **Kirby** » Sat Aug 06, 2016 3:47 pm

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Not sure. Just trying to live.

DrStraw · Post by **DrStraw** » Sat Aug 06, 2016 3:54 pm

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Kirby · Post by **Kirby** » Sat Aug 06, 2016 5:04 pm

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DrStraw · Post by **DrStraw** » Sat Aug 06, 2016 5:44 pm

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Kirby · Post by **Kirby** » Sat Aug 06, 2016 6:46 pm

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DrStraw · Post by **DrStraw** » Sun Aug 07, 2016 4:59 am

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Bill Spight · Post by **Bill Spight** » Sun Aug 07, 2016 8:08 am

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After

White has a half eye at

.

is important to that half eye, because it prevents Black "a". If White "b" is sente, and it looks close to it, then "c" is another half eye. Similarly, if White can play "d" with sente, then "e" is a third half eye. A group with four half eyes is alive.

Now, White "d" does not look like sente yet, but White can play around in the top right quadrant and maybe make it sente.

Making the half eye at

may be progress, but I think that

is aji keshi. Why? Because it induces

.

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in this diagram obviously threatens to capture the

stones. If it can be made to threaten the

stones as well, it will be a great move. I think that White should keep it in reserve -- or maybe even play it now(!).

Now,

in the original diagram connects the White stones, which could pay off by uniting the potential eyes. But in the killing game I think that connecting White stones in general is not so important, because it is a game of sacrifice. It does not matter how many stones you sacrifice, as long as some stones live. OC, threats to connect can be potent.

Which is why sacrifice is potent.

Edit: Unhidden.

emeraldemon · Post by **emeraldemon** » Sun Aug 07, 2016 9:56 am

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