Why climu left ASR and his concern about it.

Noriko · Post by **Noriko** » Thu Sep 08, 2016 12:27 pm

Thank you for sharing, climu. I was debating whether I should join ASR but I was having misgivings so I decided to wait in case something like this came up. Sadly such things happen too often to online communities in my experience.

Bonobo · Post by **Bonobo** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 4:44 pm

FYI:

• Original “ASR” post on G+
• my “documentation” of this on G+ (see image above (and yeah, that missing genitive “’s”, sorry for that)), and please cf. Ilya Kirillov’s (aka KOCMOHABT’s) enlightening reply there.
• ASR post
• ASR forum entry

Can you spell t-r-o-v-e-r?

The admins here may want to take note … L19 user (old) LinuxGooo alias L19 user (new) LinuxGooo2016, and perhaps all posts by any ASR “officials” probably coming from one and the same person (who seems to have the “keys” to everything ASR now; I’d even want to challenge the authenticity of the current “lychee” persona).

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forensic evidence, eh?

climu · Post by **climu** » Mon Oct 24, 2016 3:38 am

Yes they just dicovered Gouniverse and pretend it's an exclusive ASR feature to play kgs without javascript...

The best of it is:

ASR Master wrote:We are in an intensive dialogue with the programmer to develope the application further on to cover your needs.

and 2 days later:

Ilya Kirillov wrote:Thanks, Thomas. I even didn't knew about this in fact, it's seems strange that they have wrote that they have contacted with developer.

As for ASR owners:

Bonobo wrote:The admins here may want to take note … L19 user (old) LinuxGooo alias L19 user (new) LinuxGooo2016, and perhaps all posts by any ASR “officials” probably coming from one and the same person (who seems to have the “keys” to everything ASR now;

I would say (and always have) he manage ASR website at least.
I still think Litchee owns ASR but I think he will mostly follow LinuxGoo calls.
As for the ASR account on ASR website, reddit, L19 and more I think they share it. I have to say that I don't recognise Litchee plume when I read them tho.

Bonobo wrote: I’d even want to challenge the authenticity of the current “lychee” persona).

I wouldn't. I know Litchee since I worked with him. I even had video/audio conference with him.
I recently had some chat with him in kgs. I went nowhere interesting: he pretend I insulted him without explaining me how/when/why and said he will at one point answer my emails (2 month waiting already).

The strange thing is that they don't list LinuxGoo as a ASR admin at all. I think they keep him hidden because of his internet reputation.

Anyway thanks for documenting on this.

climu · Post by **climu** » Fri Oct 28, 2016 2:27 am

Since I still have my account on ASR website, I was wondering if I were still counted as a member and if I was still welcome in the league.
So yesterday I went on kgs and asked.

ASRLeague threaten to get a lawyer to put me in front of a court.

Then he decided to make ASR room private.

AsrLeague: this room now will be closed. all league members will have access very soon in one-two hours after we setup this room as "private". All 349 players, inclusive the "candates" for next months will have access very soon again.

I was asked by a kgs admin to leave ASR room because it's now a private kgs room.

Thought it had to be known.

DrStraw · Post by **DrStraw** » Fri Oct 28, 2016 2:31 am

That sure sounds like a good way to attract new members.

Jhyn · Post by **Jhyn** » Fri Oct 28, 2016 3:14 am

Sorry if this is irrelevant to the topic, but why the specific mention of Southern France? Are you from there? (you don't have to answer if you want to keep anonymous, it's just that I used to play in Marseille)

climu · Post by **climu** » Fri Oct 28, 2016 3:32 am

Jhyn wrote:Sorry if this is irrelevant to the topic, but why the specific mention of Southern France? Are you from there? (you don't have to answer if you want to keep anonymous, it's just that I used to play in Marseille)

Hi, No worry.
I think (it's my guess) he mention southern France because he knows my real id and he knows I want to keep it private for professional reasons. So mentioning where I live could be some pression for me.

I am not from southern France, but I do live in Marseille.

Bonobo · Post by **Bonobo** » Fri Oct 28, 2016 6:38 am

Linguistic Forensic Note
From the style/diction of the person you’re quoting from KGS it seems clear to me that “AsrLeague” is identical with the notorious LinuxGooo.
Very “German” English (i.e. using German grammar, also many literal and thus often wrong translations of German words), “Germlish”, just compare to the language used on his “mysanrensei” blog.
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Another interesting thing is that, although German (and aside of having played in four tournaments, last one in 2015, 15k [EGF]), he shows no presence in the German Go scene … no German blog, no participation in the German DGoB forum, etc. Makes me wonder why … (OK, not really).

Drew · Post by **Drew** » Fri Oct 28, 2016 5:06 pm

With consistent behavior like this, ASR doesn't deserve such a place of prominence as its own folder on 19x19. Delist these clowns. :tmbdown:

nukeu666 · Post by **nukeu666** » Sat Oct 29, 2016 6:09 am

Seems he's finally listed himself as an admin

Privatisation of the room will be their death knell

Owner/Team Management/Admins/: Guillaume D. (aka Litchee), J.R. (aka LinuxGooo), AsrLeague

skydyr · Post by **skydyr** » Mon Oct 31, 2016 12:07 pm

Drew wrote:With consistent behavior like this, ASR doesn't deserve such a place of prominence as its own folder on 19x19. Delist these clowns.

While I'm usually all for this, it may be prudent to leave this as it is for the time being to help keep the inevitable meltdown contained in its own little section.

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