18th Nongshim cup

[trout]

3rd game;
Fan Tingyu defeated Lee Donghoon by resign.

Korea: Park Junghwan, Kim Jiseok, Kang Dongyoon(seeded), Lee Sedol(wild card), Lee Donghoon(through selection tournament)
China: Ke Jie, Tuo Jiaxi, Lian Xiao, Fan Tingyu, Fan Yunrou
Japan: Iyama Yuuta, Cho U, Kono Rin, Murakawa Daisuke, Ichiriki Ryo

Bold case - alive

[echopolice]

Are you sure that Kiss88 - Ke Jie acc? On profile wrote 8d (ama) from Korea

[idontgetit]

Are you sure that Kiss88 - Ke Jie acc? On profile wrote 8d (ama) from Korea

No 8d korean ama would be able to have a 55 win and 8 loss record against TOP chinese and korean pros.

On tygem, you need to type in the (P) when searching their name, so you should be searching Kiss88(P), not Kiss88

[idontgetit]

Fan Tingyu beat Cho U to conclude the first period...

It appears that Kang Dongyoon will be next?

[Uberdude]

What was the judgement about the first corner fight, it seems to me Cho U was obsessed with cutting on dame but then sacrificed the cutting stones... Fan Tingyu's solid style seems to be adept at dodging such manoeuvres.

[trout]

4th game;
Fan Tingyu defeated Cho U by resign.
Fan Tingyu earned W1,000,0000($9,000) by winning 3 consecutive games.

Korea: Park Junghwan, Kim Jiseok, Kang Dongyoon(seeded), Lee Sedol(wild card), Lee Donghoon(through selection tournament)
China: Ke Jie, Tuo Jiaxi, Lian Xiao, Fan Tingyu, Fan Yunrou
Japan: Iyama Yuuta, Kono Rin, Murakawa Daisuke, Ichiriki Ryo, Cho U

Bold case - alive

2nd round,
11/25 - 5th game
11/26 - 6th game
11/27 - 7th game
11/28 - 8th game
11/29 - 9th game

3rd round,
2/21 - 10th game
2/22 - 11th game
2/23 - 12th game
2/24 - 13th game
2/25 - 14th game

[idontgetit]

What was the judgement about the first corner fight, it seems to me Cho U was obsessed with cutting on dame but then sacrificed the cutting stones... Fan Tingyu's solid style seems to be adept at dodging such manoeuvres.

the weiqitv commentators basically criticized every move black made in that corner, and after the 5 stones died, peng quan says if he was black, he would be thinking of resigning, since both he and cho U are no longer that young, so there's no way they can have an advantage in the second half of the game.

http://eidogo.com/#3qSbBcZOd

And what I found really interesting was that Peng Quan said D10 is a mistake; he thinks b should've played the 1 space jump at C11 or D11. It feels really cramped, a mere one space jump from 3 stones, but because of the B12 weakness, it's better to just fix it completely. With a 2 space jump, white can do what he did in the game. If black protects again, then it's obviously not efficient because you're using 2 moves to make a 2 space jump.

If black wanted to do a 2 space jump, he has to follow up again, with something like C7. That gives black a decent amount of territory on the left, and the top group isnt really in any danger. So Peng quan thinks D10 is a mistake, then after d10, J13 was a mistake.

[by78]

I think that opening is not good for black, and when Ichiriki grew the centre and offered Lee to make an even bigger lower right corner in exchange for a monster centre but he declined with that attachment on the left hoshi it looked hard for Lee. He made nice use of the aji to reduce the centre though, but not enough. A nice win for Ichiriki and Japan: goratings.org put his (#83, 3332) chances vs Lee (#4, 3543) at 23%. He started with 3 wins last year, but that was not against top opposition like Lee; next up Fan Tingyu (#29 3437, 35%).

I await by78 telling us how weak and overrated Japanese players are...

LOL, already two Japanese players got knocked out in quick succession. Just about what I expected.

[oren]

LOL, already two Japanese players got knocked out in quick succession. Just about what I expected.

And two Korean players?

[Uberdude]

I think by78 has become a parody of himself.

[dhu163]

a partial and rough translation of some of the sina news article

...
Cho U played a non standard opening from move 3, hoping to lead Fan into an unfamiliar opening. In the opening fight in the top left corner, Fan's made a poking move at black's vital point. Cho couldn't endure the teasing by this combination and simply sacrificed the 5 vital stones. But the resulting exchange was clearly bad for black.

In the middlegame, Cho's sabaki, made a living group in the bottom right corner, but black's outside was too thin and didn't profit overall. At the bottom black once again applied power, but Fan's "tai chi exercises" dissolved it all. Fan took sente to connect the 4 stones at the top, and after the middlegame, Cho was far far behind.

Under advantageous circumstances, Fan started an unnecessary ko on the right, and the exchange shrunk his lead. But Fan's white was still leading by territory on the board (without komi). Fan wasn't even satisfied with a peaceful win, and flung a 2-step ko at the bottom right. With his ko threat advantage, he forced Cho to give up 4 stones at the top. Cho saw the gap was extreme, and resigned.

...the next 4 games are 25-29 November, Korean are sending out Kang ...

(Wen Xuan)

[trout]

Reminder !!!!!!!!!!

5th game;
Fan Tingyu vs Kang Dongyoon

Korea: Park Junghwan, Kim Jiseok, Kang Dongyoon(seeded), Lee Sedol, Lee Donghoon
China: Ke Jie, Tuo Jiaxi, Lian Xiao, Fan Tingyu, Fan Yunrou
Japan: Iyama Yuuta, Kono Rin, Murakawa Daisuke, Ichiriki Ryo, Cho U

Bold case - alive

2nd round,
11/25 - 5th game
11/26 - 6th game
11/27 - 7th game
11/28 - 8th game
11/29 - 9th game

3rd round,
2/21 - 10th game
2/22 - 11th game
2/23 - 12th game
2/24 - 13th game
2/25 - 14th game

[Uberdude]

Fan Tingyu beat Kang Dongyoon. Seems like Kang got annoyed with Fan living everywhere and he tried to kill a double ponnuki but unsurprisingly that didn't succeed.

[trout]

5th game;

Fan Tingyu defeated Kang Dongyoon by resign.

Korea: Park Junghwan, Kim Jiseok, Kang Dongyoon(seeded), Lee Sedol, Lee Donghoon
China: Ke Jie, Tuo Jiaxi, Lian Xiao, Fan Tingyu, Fan Yunrou
Japan: Iyama Yuuta, Kono Rin, Murakawa Daisuke, Ichiriki Ryo, Cho U

Bold case - alive

2nd round,
11/25 - 5th game
11/26 - 6th game
11/27 - 7th game
11/28 - 8th game
11/29 - 9th game

3rd round,
2/21 - 10th game
2/22 - 11th game
2/23 - 12th game
2/24 - 13th game
2/25 - 14th game

[xiayun]

Next game: Fan Tingyu vs. Kono Rin