If we are talking about basics, the diagrams show the relevant key patterns.Gotraskhalana wrote:I think that's just it that not everyone will figure things out by themselves from example diagrams without someone pointing them to the relevant key patterns.Bill Spight wrote:For basics, you don't need much in the way of language, looking at the diagrams is pretty much good enough.
Of course they do. The question is what different people see.Bill Spight wrote: If we are talking about basics, the diagrams show the relevant key patterns.
The one bright spot is that even if I had fixed that weakness, I still would have lost. It's too bad to have a game end that abruptly, but at least I didn't blunder a won game as far as I can tell.
but rejected it because I was worried about the cross-cut. 
I was trying to find a way to break out and kill those white stones on the edge, but kept seeing a shortage of liberties on my side.Fedya wrote:I thought about the hane on
And on
seems like the wrong direction, why not push through at N15 and split? White is weak all around here and you aren't since you've captured the key stones. Once white fixes the weakness black getting into the top area seems unlikely.
seems like a mistake to me? 6 points in gote when you could have played R4 and taken control of the direction of game.
I think it's reverse sente because W O13 threatens to capture Black's top group with P18.swannod wrote:
Normally with Kobayashi you do pincer. For a long time the dogma in the Western go circles was close approach was a mistake and pincer punished it (and probably reflecting pro consensus given its scarcity in games) but recently pros have tried the close approach. I'm not aware of any definitive conclusions. One difference here though is black already has that knight's move on the top right and it's possible it might become inefficient with a pincer. But then again it might be efficient and white might end up regretting approaching the top side and giving black a stone there (e.g. if he wanted to counterpincer the pincer after jumping out from the corner a bit in sente). I'm not really sure. One thing I would say though is if black makes the knight's move as Fedya did then white attach and pull back is probably an overplay and black should then pincer due to lower side support. White would be wise to play more lightly, such as attach at 3-3 once and then extend directly to r8, black r4 and white extends again to r11.Majordomo wrote:For move 23 I thought the whole idea of the kobayashi formation was that if white approaches close like this you pincer? The played move I see a lot in the the low chinese but with kobayashi you play the one space or two space high pincer in that position? That way you get the bottom and you prevent white from settling easy on the bottom both at once
Oh, boo hoo! After you play you will outnumber your opponent locally 4 stones to 2 and you control the corner so that he cannot get an eye there, and you are worried about the cross cut? You will never become a dangerous opponent with that attitude.Fedya wrote:I thought about the hane on
Courage, mon vieux.Danton wrote:De l'audace! Encore de l'audace! Toujours de l'audace!
Eastern go circles too until recently...Uberdude wrote:For a long time the dogma in the Western go circles was close approach was a mistake and pincer punished it (and probably reflecting pro consensus given its scarcity in games) but recently pros have tried the close approach.
Can you find a way to break out? It is a fairly long sequence, but all forcing moves, with one nice tesuji, so not too difficult to read. In a real game, the trick is to realize that there really is something there, then keep reading until you find it.
is a nice invasion point to reduce the W moyo. An alternative worth considering is to attack the W group on the lower right. The purpose of this attack would not be to kill, but to reduce the upper W moyo! If you can take away this group's base, W will have to run, and running toward his moyo should give you opportunities to play reducing moves in sente while attacking. Plus you get the initial corner profit from the attack -- moves like S3 and P6 are quite large.
is the right idea, but peeping at P6 does a better job of destroying W eye shape. And it is a shame to let W get S3, so taking that point first would be huge. Does S3 in the game really make the W group alive? At a minimum, S2 remains very large sente. I thought I was fighting. I just couldn't find anything that worked.Knotwilg wrote:Exercise at move 148
After White defended both his top territory and his central group up to 148, you seem to lose your fighting spirit.
I hope you're talking about K7.There are still possibilities:
- in the centre, there's a sente move, that will later earn you a few points
S6 is gote, so I should play S1?- White's smallest and weakest group is the lower right; can you use sente there to your advantage?
I tried E5 in the game. It doesn't work, because after white responds with E6, Black has to defend above or else White will play E8. (White actually missed E8 in the game.)- there is aji in the lower left white territory, in two places, which you can perhaps combine
I don't think the ogeima at N19 is sente. I played O19 and didn't get much out of it. Or are you suggesting something like M18? I don't think that works, either.- at the top there is a local sente endgame move we all know
How to play these areas, in which order, to keep sente and squeeze the most profit out of the whole board?
C2, follwed by C3, actually works, doesn't it? Black has a fighting chance of getting a living group in the corner. I think.:w150: is a mistake worth learning. Find a tesuji sequence for B here.