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Offline Violence
 Post subject: Re: 56. Violence(?d) vs Magicwand(3d)
Post #181 Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:17 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . O O X . . X . . X X O . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . X O X O X O . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X W . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X O X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . X X O . X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X O . O O O . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O X X . O . O . O O . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X O . X . X . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . X . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think B14 is a mistake. Now A14 is sente. It doesn't feel like a good move to me.

Now... how handles the cut is a point of interest. I'll try to get the advantage in endgame.
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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: 56. Violence(?d) vs Magicwand(3d)
Post #182 Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:45 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . O O X . . X . . X X O . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . X O X O X O . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . B . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X O X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . X X O . X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X O . O O O . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O X X . O . O . O O . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X O . X . X . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . X . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Offline Violence
 Post subject: Re: 56. Violence(?d) vs Magicwand(3d)
Post #183 Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:50 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . O O X . . X . . X X O . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . X O X O X O . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X O W . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X O X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . X X O . X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X O . O O O . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O X X . O . O . O O . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X O . X . X . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . X . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Ok, just take profit here in sente, and move to another part of the board. gotta consider endgame.
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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: 56. Violence(?d) vs Magicwand(3d)
Post #184 Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:55 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=0, B=3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . O O X . . X . . X X O . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . X O X O X O . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . B . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . X X O . X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X O . O O O . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O X X . O . O . O O . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X O . X . X . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . X . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Joaz Banbeck
 Post subject: Re: 56. Violence(?d) vs Magicwand(3d)
Post #185 Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 3:17 pm 
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White has problems. Black can start the folowing ko. It is big. Losing it is disastrous for white.

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[go]$$Bcm1 5 retakes ko
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . O O X . . X . . X X O . |
$$ | 6 O O . . . . . . . . . X O X O X O . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O O 4 . X X O . X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X 2 X O 3 O O O . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O 1 X O X X . O . O . O O . . . |
$$ | . . O 7 . X X O . X a X b . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . X . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


The diagram above illustrates how a ko threat like 6 is useless compared to the size of the ko. All of white's ko threats must be internal ko threats like 'a' or 'b'.

So I think that Violence must patch up his connections first to avoid the ko, probably like this ( :w1: is a sacrifice to seal the underside against invasion ):

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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . O O X . . X . . X X O . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . X O X O X O . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . X X O . X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X 2 X O . O O O . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . 1 X O 3 X O X X . O . O . O O . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X O . X . X . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . X . 5 . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


At this point black has sente, but probably has to use it to prevent white's invasion with :w5:.

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Offline Violence
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Post #186 Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:34 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=1, B=3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . O O X . . X . . X X O . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . X O X O X O . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . X X O . X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X W . O . O O O . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O X X . O . O . O O . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X O . X . X . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . X . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I have to eliminate this ko. With any luck, because of the aji in the top left, this may be sente.
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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: 56. Violence(?d) vs Magicwand(3d)
Post #187 Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 12:38 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=1, B=3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . O O X . . X . . X X O . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . X O X O X O . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . X X O . X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O B O O O . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O X X . O . O . O O . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X O . X . X . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . X . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

edit:
i have a feeling that my opponent explained the situation fully in his hidden(ko aji). i will not beat dead horse. i want sente...and i will decide to go.. i still dont know where to play.
a,b,c is my probable next move. for now..i dont think i will play 'c' but might.
as of now i am thinking 'a' because of horrorable aji in there..
'b' is big so maybe i should play there...but i think i am ahead so i will play solid move.


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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=1, B=3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . O O X . . X . . X X O . |
$$ | c O O . . . . . . . . . X O X O X O . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . b . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . X X O . X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O B O O O . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O X X . O . O . O O . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X O . X . X . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . X . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X O . a . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #188 Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 2:21 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=1, B=3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . O O X . . X . . X X O . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . X O X O X O . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O O W . X X O . X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O X O O O . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O X X . O . O . O O . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X O . X . X . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . X . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Too big to not block.
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Post #189 Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 2:22 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=1, B=4
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . O O X . . X . . X X O . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . X O X O X O . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O . X X O . X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X . B O X O O O . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . X O X X . O . O . O O . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X O . X . X . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . X . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #190 Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 10:07 am 
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How much is this ko worth?

As far as I can see, this ko is HUGE. I mean the follow ups alone are worth 5-6 points each. This is also for no matter who wins it. This ko is just exceptionally important. I assume the worth can be placed at 20-30 points? Does anyone have a decent count on it?

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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=1, B=4
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . O O X . . X . . X X O . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . X O X O X O . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O . X X O . X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X O X O O O . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O W X O X X . O . O . O O . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X O . X . X . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . X . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I have to end this ko now. It's too big to fight.
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=1, B=4
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . O O X . . X . . X X O . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . X O X O X O . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O . X X O . X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X O X O O O . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O W X O X X . O . O . O O . . . |
$$ | . 1 O . . X X O . X . X . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . X . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This has no difference with the below diagram, with regards to how I can block. Therefore, I should connect now so that I can take the ko later, profiting a bit more.

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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=1, B=4
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . O O X . . X . . X X O . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . X O X O X O . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O . X X O . X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X 3 1 O X O O O . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . 2 X O 4 X O X X . O . O . O O . . . |
$$ | . 5 O . . X X O . X . X . . O X O . . |
$$ | . a . . . X O O . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . X . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Post #192 Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 12:37 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=1, B=4
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . O O X . . X . . X X O . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . X O X O X O . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O . X X O . X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X O X O O O . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X X . O . O . O O . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X O . X . X . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . X . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X O . B . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
i think this is big.. and his semi sente.

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Post #193 Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:34 pm 
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Tenuki here? Seems small to me...


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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=1, B=4
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . O O X . . X . . X X O . |
$$ | W O O . . . . . . . . . X O X O X O . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O . X X O . X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X O X O O O . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X X . O . O . O O . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X O . X . X . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . X . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I guess I'll just proceed with a normal endgame.

I dunno, why do I feel like the situation is favorable for white?

Haven't really counted or estimated, it just kinda feels like white has the game won...

Maybe I'm being irrational.
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Post #194 Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:49 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=1, B=4
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . |
$$ | B X O O . . . O O X . . X . . X X O . |
$$ | O O O . . . . . . . . . X O X O X O . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O . X X O . X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X . X O X O O O . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X X . O . O . O O . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X O . X . X . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . X . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #195 Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:53 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=2, B=4
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . |
$$ | X X O O . . . O O X . . X . . X X O . |
$$ | O O O . . . . . . . . . X O X O X O . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O . X X O . X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X W . O X O O O . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X O X X . O . O . O O . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X O . X . X . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . X . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This ko is now worry free for me... but not for him.
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Post #196 Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:58 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=2, B=4
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . |
$$ | X X O O . . . O O X . . X . . X X O . |
$$ | O O O . . . . . . . . . X O X O X O . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O . X X O . X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O X O O O . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . B X O O X O X X . O . O . O O . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X O . X . X . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . X . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners: W=2, B=4
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . |
$$ | X X O O . . . O O X . . X . . X X O . |
$$ | O O O . . . . . . . . . X O X O X O . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O . X X O . X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O X O O O . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O O X O X X . O . O . O O . . . |
$$ | . W O . . X X O . X . X . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . X . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Now I'm pretty sure this is sente... and if it is... I think I've just gained a large endgame advantage.

A quick estimate, and I don't think black can afford komi...

K3 to me was like a declaration of victory, a move of overconfidence.

I think that from here... he'll start to experience that sinking feeling... where the game slowly starts to slip out of your grasp.
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Post #198 Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 4:18 pm 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | X . X O . . O . X X . O . X . X O . . |
$$ | X X O O . . . O O X . . X . . X X O . |
$$ | O O O . . . . . . . . . X O X O X O . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X O O B . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . X . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O . X X O . X X X . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . O X O O O . O . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O O X O X X . O . O . O O . . . |
$$ | . O O . . X X O . X . X . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . X . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . X O . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

this game is pretty much over... i have a feeling he will resign soon

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I think the next move here will come Monday.

Didn't expect a move like this.

I'll take some time to read this over the weekend.

But honestly, after the lower left, I think I'm definitely ahead, and I have all the momentum in the game. Victory is close... All that's left is to give him that sinking feeling of helplessness as his point lead disappears.

Just because my screenname is Violence, I hope you don't think that my endgame is horrible. There's violence in endgame too, after all.

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Post #200 Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:14 pm 
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Magicwand wrote:
this game is pretty much over... i have a feeling he will resign soon

Violence wrote:

But honestly, after the lower left, I think I'm definitely ahead, and I have all the momentum in the game. Victory is close...


My quick count puts Magicwand up by 12-15 points. O13 is big for black. I think Violence has to go for a desperate invasion of the lower side.

Anybody got a more accurate count?

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