Ichiriki Ryo 7p will play against bots JueYi and DeepZenGo

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Your prediction on result

Poll ended at Sat Mar 25, 2017 3:00 am

Ichiriki Ryo win both match
3
15%
AI win both match
8
40%
Winner AI win while runner-up AI lose
8
40%
Winner AI lose while runner-up AI win
1
5%
 
Total votes: 20

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Ichiriki Ryo 7p will play against bots JueYi and DeepZenGo

Post by pookpooi »

He'll play against the winner and the runner-up AI of 10th UEC cup, this is the 5th and the last Densei-sen competition, also the first time to play in even term. He vs. runner-up program will have 30 minutes maintime and 30 seconds byoyomi, while the match against winner program will have 1 hour maintime and 1 minute byoyomi. Both matches will be in Japanese rule.
March 26, 2017 (Sunday), in Japan timezone, first match (runner-up AI) start at 10:30 while the second match (winner AI) start at 14:30. The UEC cup is 18-19 March.

source: http://www.nihonkiin.or.jp/news/etc/52017326.html
list of participating AI in UEC cup this year http://www.computer-go.jp/uec/public_ht ... pant.shtml
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Re: Ichiriki Ryo 7p will play against AI in Densei-sen this

Post by Uberdude »

Quite a lot of new names in the competitors this year, does anyone know more about them? There are supposedly several pro level Chinese-made bots now, such as Xing Tian (see viewtopic.php?f=10&t=13921), are any of the entrants this one under another name. Also I note one by Tencent which is a big Chinese tech company so they ought to have the resources to make something strong.

The timing is interesting: the new 'World Go Championship' (viewtopic.php?f=13&t=13827) with Iyama/Mi/Park/DeepZen is 21st-24th March between the UEC cup and this Ichiriki match. A good time for computer Go fans! (and another AlphaGo match sometime too?).
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Re: Ichiriki Ryo 7p will play against AI in Densei-sen this

Post by pookpooi »

Well, let's look if CrazyStone by Remi Coulom can comeback to the front scene, he has new assistant Fabien Letouzey
And there's very wild rumor/guess from Chinese webboard that no.8 of entrant
Kaminoitte / 神乎碁技
is GodMoves
I use Google translate and it said
Kaminoitte / God by Acer Technology
Very old program Many Faces of Go by David Fotland, he said on mailing-list that he expect his program to reach professional level
Dolbaram is south korean 5d MCTS bot but get government support to turn into deep learning ai, let's see the result
Two strong AI in fox server, Xing Tian and Jueyi might be in competition in different name, I don't know (for now)
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Re: Ichiriki Ryo 7p will play against AI in Densei-sen this

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JueYi (FineArt) is an undisputed winner, winning every match with ease, all commentators have the same opinion 'too strong' (Developer said this version is even stronger than version that play in Fox Go server). DeepZenGo is runner-up, winning every match excluding JueYi (FineArt).

You can watch live with English commentators from Michael Redmond and Antti Tormanen, detail here http://entcog.c.ooco.jp/entcog/densei/d ... watch.html
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Re: Ichiriki Ryo 7p will play against bots JueYi and DeepZen

Post by Krama »

I just wish Chinese could release their AI so that anyone could download it.
Also would be cool if deepmind could do the same.
They wouldn't lose anything and go world would gain so much.
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Re: Ichiriki Ryo 7p will play against bots JueYi and DeepZen

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Krama wrote:I just wish Chinese could release their AI so that anyone could download it.
Also would be cool if deepmind could do the same.
They wouldn't lose anything and go world would gain so much.

But they've to wait for all go organizations around the world implement anti-cheat program in tournament first, (and on online go server as well). KBA play the first step by banning phone, and in the future, bathroom too.
https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/t ... 22413.html
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Re: Ichiriki Ryo 7p will play against bots JueYi and DeepZen

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do you know where it will be live broadcast? Ichiriki's games on 26th march
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Re: Ichiriki Ryo 7p will play against bots JueYi and DeepZen

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maceta wrote:do you know where it will be live broadcast? Ichiriki's games on 26th march

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/xQJym5cU4c6
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Re: Ichiriki Ryo 7p will play against bots JueYi and DeepZen

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Seeing as DeepZen beat Iyama, maybe I should change my vote to both AIs win (was just winner win)...
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Re: Ichiriki Ryo 7p will play against bots JueYi and DeepZen

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Zen won rather comfortably. Displayed good positional judgement in going for simplifying trades and thus avoided the sort of complex infighting Ichiriki excels at (and I thought was his best chance of winning). Zen attacked well in the final fighting though to force the resign.
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Re: Ichiriki Ryo 7p will play against bots JueYi and DeepZen

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Now FineArt vs....
This is the first time FineArt play against human in normal time setting.
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Re: Ichiriki Ryo 7p will play against bots JueYi and DeepZen

Post by Amtiskaw »

Zen's game was quite enjoyable, I thought. In the end, it attacked one group to gain strength to attack a second, to gain strength to attack a third, to gain strength to kill a fourth...

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Re: Ichiriki Ryo 7p will play against bots JueYi and DeepZen

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FineArt also won, finally I bet on the right slot.
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Ichiriki's face after losing to FineArt (from http://www.asahi.com/articles/photo/AS2 ... 02371.html)

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Re: Ichiriki Ryo 7p will play against bots JueYi and DeepZen

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Where can we see the game vs FineArt?
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