Rayon (rn-3.9) is the strongest open source go AI

[Shoreline]

Dependency on GPU quality is not new. Oakfoam Bot (NG06) also has this issue. NG06 CPU only version in my testing is weaker than GPU version.
But the degradation at NG06 is a lot better than RN3.9, not as dramatic as ray

[roy7]

Interesting. I assumed cpu version would execute same code, just slower.

[goame]

Does Rayon support the 45% of all users which have an amd gpu?

Can I use 4x xeon cpus with Rayon?
And 2-4 gpus?

Does it work in the Smart Go or Leela gui for windows?


Can someone post here the exe?
No matter if this would be 10% slower on my machine.

[Sneegurd]

Can someone post here the exe?
No matter if this would be 10% slower on my machine.

Binaries: https://github.com/zakki/Ray/releases

Yes it works in Smartgo. Use the non GPU binary. EDIT: There is no such binary. I guess as an AMD user you cannot use it.

[roy7]

Can someone post here the exe?
No matter if this would be 10% slower on my machine.

Binaries: https://github.com/zakki/Ray/releases

Yes it works in Smartgo. Use the non GPU binary. EDIT: There is no such binary. I guess as an AMD user you cannot use it.

The GPU version will work, it just runs in cpu only mode. And it's 30x-100x times slow per author without GPU.

[goame]

Can someone post here the exe?
No matter if this would be 10% slower on my machine.

Binaries: https://github.com/zakki/Ray/releases

Yes it works in Smartgo. Use the non GPU binary. EDIT: There is no such binary. I guess as an AMD user you cannot use it.

The GPU version will work, it just runs in cpu only mode. And it's 30x-100x times slow per author without GPU.

After cd ...
'make' doesn't work.

[goame]

https://github.com/zakki/Ray/issues?q=i ... is%3Aissue
See Issues: Open and Closed for more informations.

[pnprog]

Hi everybody!

Since the last message on this thread, it seems zakki has been putting a lot of effort into Ray, and Ray is now at version rn-4.2.4

I am really willing to try this bot, but so far have not been able to compile it myself, either on Windows or Ubuntu.

Has one of you been able to compile it on Ubuntu, and then could share a "recipe" to do it, starting from a fresh Ubuntu install?

[pookpooi]

It's very impressive improvement, Rn.4.2-4c is now almost as strong as Zen-14.7-1c0g

[Krama]

Who is stronger Rayon or Leela?

[pnprog]

Who is stronger Rayon or Leela?

The situation is not so clear, but apparently, it really depends of the hardware used:

• with a big Nvidia GPU, Ray would be stronger (Ray make good use of Scuda technology)
• Without GPU or without Nvidia GPU, Leela would be stronger (Leela makes good use of CPU)

At that point, I think Ray needs a bigger user base to push its development forward.

[hydrogenpi7]

Who is stronger Rayon or Leela?

The situation is not so clear, but apparently, it really depends of the hardware used:

• with a big Nvidia GPU, Ray would be stronger (Ray make good use of Scuda technology)
• Without GPU or without Nvidia GPU, Leela would be stronger (Leela makes good use of CPU)

At that point, I think Ray needs a bigger user base to push its development forward.

Does anyone know how well does the current version of Ray scale?

http://www.yss-aya.com/cgos/19x19/standings.html

The listing says the Ray 4.3-4c is only about 100 or so ELO ahead of Leela-0100b3_750Ti.
But since it does better with Cuda than Leela, is it possible that if I play it on something like the below configuration that it might beat an average pro?

http://i.imgur.com/36CaJgm.png



I wonder why Leela is not opens source like ray, and about ray needing a bigger base, if Ray would come out with a GUI, I think since most people these days have a powerful GPU for gaming, that it would quickly get a larger base .

[hydrogenpi7]

Who is stronger Rayon or Leela?

The situation is not so clear, but apparently, it really depends of the hardware used:

• with a big Nvidia GPU, Ray would be stronger (Ray make good use of Scuda technology)
• Without GPU or without Nvidia GPU, Leela would be stronger (Leela makes good use of CPU)

At that point, I think Ray needs a bigger user base to push its development forward.

Does anyone know how well does the current version of Ray scale?

http://www.yss-aya.com/cgos/19x19/standings.html

The listing says the Ray 4.3-4c is only about 100 or so ELO ahead of Leela-0100b3_750Ti.
But since it does better with Cuda than Leela, is it possible that if I play it on something like the below configuration that it might beat an average pro?

http://i.imgur.com/36CaJgm.png



I wonder why Leela is not opens source like ray, and about ray needing a bigger base, if Ray would come out with a GUI, I think since most people these days have a powerful GPU for gaming, that it would quickly get a larger base .

I cannot get Rayon to beat Leela not even a single game.

Unless I'm missing something or did something very wrong, I am confident that Leela is way stronger than Ray...

https://imgur.com/a/TrvPD

https://gokibitz.com/kifu/B1fNfvwzZ
https://gokibitz.com/kifu/B1twxPDfW
https://gokibitz.com/kifu/HkdyyDwGb

I'm playing on 4790k with a gtx 1050ti mini using Gtp versions of latest leela and ray on sabaki board and leela wins everything though I set same time limits . What is going wrong?

I've tested short games, long games, on my home computer, on Google's cloud with 8x K80's and 24 CPUs.... Turned off pondering for Leela. Made sure I used the GPU version of Rayon and latest Rn4.2.5.... each time Leela GPU GTP beats Ray hands down...

[trex1234]

Did you try it with the newest version?

[Krama]

Rayon also uses Nvidia gpus while Leela works best with AMD right?
For example, if you have amd you can't use rayon gpu mode.