Review: Invisible - The Games of AlphaGo

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Re: Review: Invisible - The Games of AlphaGo

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Uberdude, for positional judgement, I have described the necessary theory, and done so in greater, and sometimes much greater, detail than I have seen elsewhere. I am working on more theory that will come in suitably for game commentaries. In fact, it is a reason why I have not written some yet: first I want to build the foundation.

Professionals have some great advantage: their reading is much faster. Since I do not compete on reading speed, I compensate that by greater amount of time spent on reading before I comment on reading-dependent aspects, such as aji or life status. You can verify the quality of my reading in writing by possibly spending even more time (up to reasonably exhaustively checking all tactical alternatives) or, where applicable, verify whether I have applied my own theory correctly and understand why (in other cases: to which extent) the theory itself is correct.

Hint: read Positional Judgement 1 - Territory, Positional Judgement 2 - Dynamics, Tactical Reading (also do not overlook that the problems are created by myself), Fighting Fundamentals. You might read further books to better appreciate that my variations consider every move, regardless how unlikely its shape might appear.
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John Fairbairn wrote:So far the so-called study of AI is just assuming that AlphaGo is better than humans at fuseki. We don't even know whether that's true. Its real strength may lie later in the game, but either way we can assume that machines will become even stronger in all aspects, by using machine-like thinking, and so will become even more distant from our way of thinking.


Have you seen the Hon Dojo's review of Master's games? It's interesting, since they go over the game quickly, break out the interesting points, and then work backwards to where they think either Master played an excellent move or his opponent played a blunder, and then a final conclusion.

The problem here being that these were the quick games played against strong players, but the format and review by multiple pros was an interesting style.
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Re: Review: Invisible - The Games of AlphaGo

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Uberdude wrote:
Drew wrote:
Uberdude wrote:Lee Sedol's book on his games is even more detailed (the most I've seen in English books) with about 100 pages per game.

Which book is this?

https://senseis.xmp.net/?CommentedGamesByLeeSedol. I've got just volume 1. Looks like the German but not English version is discounted at https://www.schaakengo.nl/goshop-keima/ ... -volume-1/. There's a sample pdf on gogameguru's shop but they don't sell anymore: https://shop.gogameguru.com/commented-g ... e-sedol-1/.


Sorry, brain fart. I'm aware of those 3 books but never saw which games he actually discusses there-in.
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Commented Games of Lee Sedol Volume 1 in English seems to be out of print.
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