Who will win the EGC

Javaness · Post by **Javaness** » Sat Jul 24, 2010 12:47 pm

I picked the top players registered so far

HermanHiddema · Post by **HermanHiddema** » Sat Jul 24, 2010 1:20 pm

Wu Ci-Yang is only playing the first week :roll:

HermanHiddema · Post by **HermanHiddema** » Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:39 am

Suprising first round losses by Dinerchtein and Pop, both against European 6 dans (Burzo and Surin, respectively). This puts them pretty much out of the running, I guess.

I hope Rob van Zeijst will do well

hyperpape · Post by **hyperpape** » Sun Jul 25, 2010 1:18 pm

The European Go Champion usually has a loss or two, right? Not saying it's now promising for Dinerchtein or Pop, but at least it's not the US Go congress, where the winner is typically undefeated.

HermanHiddema · Post by **HermanHiddema** » Sun Jul 25, 2010 2:55 pm

hyperpape wrote:The European Go Champion usually has a loss or two, right? Not saying it's now promising for Dinerchtein or Pop, but at least it's not the US Go congress, where the winner is typically undefeated.

In recent years, the European Champion took three losses. In earlier years, one or two losses were also not unusual. But usually those losses are either against strong Asian players, or against other top Europeans (7 dan or professional). Furthermore, taking a loss in the first round is known to be bad for SOS, which has been decisive all to often in recent years. To take a first round loss against a player that is neither a strong Asian player, nor a real top European contender, is not promising for their prospects, IMO :-|

willemien · Post by **willemien** » Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:50 am

He why can't i poll for Robert Jasiek?
:twisted:

(or just an option to poll for somebody else)

HermanHiddema · Post by **HermanHiddema** » Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:59 am

Jasiek is not playing in the super group.

"Other" would've been a nice option though.

Stefany93 · Post by **Stefany93** » Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:36 pm

I think Catalin will win!
Dinerstain will not be the 1000000th European champion.
P.S - Whoever wins the ECG becomes the next European champion, right?

pwaldron · Post by **pwaldron** » Mon Jul 26, 2010 2:04 pm

The EGC results page, for those who want to follow the action: http://www.egc2010.fi/results.php

tapir · Post by **tapir** » Mon Jul 26, 2010 2:32 pm

HermanHiddema wrote:Jasiek is not playing in the super group.

"Other" would've been a nice option though.

Well, last year there was a (non-european) player quite near to the top starting outside the supergroup. If the winners have 2 or 3 losses, then even a winner from outside the supergroup may be possible (though unlikely).

HermanHiddema · Post by **HermanHiddema** » Tue Jul 27, 2010 4:12 am

tapir wrote:
HermanHiddema wrote:Jasiek is not playing in the super group.

"Other" would've been a nice option though.

Well, last year there was a (non-european) player quite near to the top starting outside the supergroup. If the winners have 2 or 3 losses, then even a winner from outside the supergroup may be possible (though unlikely).

I don't recall that happening last year, but it has certainly happened in the past. But those are players that are as strong as the super group players, but not allowed in the super group due to the limit of only 8 non-European players. Players that are outside the supergroup because of their playing strength simply have zero chance

In fact, I highly doubt that any player outside the top 10 has ever won the EGC.

HermanHiddema · Post by **HermanHiddema** » Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:52 am

Well, 1 Korean and 3 Europeans left undefeated: Taranu, Shikshin, Kachanovskyy and Kang.

Kang is now 3-0 against Csaba Mero recently, and also 3-0 against Pal Balogh recently, both strong 6 dans. I wonder how she will fair against the European professionals and 7 dans.

Magicwand · Post by **Magicwand** » Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:29 am

she might lose..but probably not.
from what i heard she is stronger than most European professionals and 7 dans.

tapir · Post by **tapir** » Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:10 am

Magicwand wrote:she might lose..but probably not.
from what i heard she is stronger than most European professionals and 7 dans.

Cornel was very close to a victory against her. If I counted correctly and had he taken two stones in the center... instead of defending two stones at the edge.

Magicwand · Post by **Magicwand** » Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:13 am

tapir wrote:
Magicwand wrote:she might lose..but probably not.
from what i heard she is stronger than most European professionals and 7 dans.

Cornel was very close to a victory against her. If I counted correctly and had he taken two stones in the center... instead of defending two stones at the edge.

can you post sgf so i can review?

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