Kingo Malkovitch#1: Jeromie vs. Hyperpape

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[go]$$Bcm45
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . W . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . X . O . W W W . |
$$ | . . W , . . . X . , . . . . B X B . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . W . . O . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 6 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . X B . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . O . 2 . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . W X . . . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . W O X X . X . X X @ . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O W . . . . . . . . 5 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I feel like I'm behind and have to play a bit aggressively at this point. I can get at least on eye on the bottom if I play at O2, but if black ignores it he can seal me in. I can definitely live in that case, but I can't take the whole corner so it's not enough. I have to try to destroy the center first, hope I can make an eye in the process, and then come back to the bottom for another eye.

I'm a bit disappointed in my play. I feel like I had the advantage in secure territory and extra kings, but threw it away and now the game rests solely on what I can do with this one group. I know that I have up a lot of outside influence to take that early territory, but I had hoped I could do a better job at reducing black's potential territory without getting myself into such big trouble.
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[go]$$Bcm49
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . W . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . X . O . W W W . |
$$ | . . W , . . . X . , . . . . B X B . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . W . . O . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . # X B . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . O . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . W X . . . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . W O X X . X . X X W . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O W . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I think this is a forcing move I want to take now. It limits white's eyespace, letting me chase him just a bit more. And after White leans on my left side group a bit, he might not have to answer it.
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[go]$$Bcm49
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . W . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . X . O . W W W . |
$$ | . . W , . . . X . , . . . . B X B . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . W . . O . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . @ B X B . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . O . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . W X . . . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . W O X X . X . X X W . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O W . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Forced.
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . W . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . X . O . W W W . |
$$ | . . W , . . . X . , . . . . B X B . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . W . . O . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . @ B X B . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . O . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . W X . . . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . W O X X . X . X X W . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O W . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bcm55
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . W . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . X . O . W W W . |
$$ | . . W , . . . X . , . . . . B X B . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . W . . O . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 6 . . 1 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . 4 . . @ B X B . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . 5 . 2 . O . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . W X . . . 3 . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . W O X X . X . X X W . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O W . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I expect him to lean on my group. I have no particular attachment to :b57:, it just keeps popping into my head, but it's probably bad, as after :w58: I have to cover the cutting point.
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[go]$$Bcm55
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . W . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . X . O . W W W . |
$$ | . . W , . . . X . , . . . . B X B . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . W . . O . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . 2 . . @ B X B . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . O . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . W X . . . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . W O X X . X . X X W . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O W . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This aims at the center and the G3 weakness. I have to settle this group, hopefully in sente, before seeing what I can do to the now huge right hand side
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . W . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . X . O . W W W . |
$$ | . . W , . . . X . , . . . . B X B . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . W . . O . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . 2 . . @ B X B . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . 3 . . . O . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . W X . . . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . W O X X . X . X X W . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O W . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Bcm55
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . W . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . X . O . W W W . |
$$ | . . W , . . . X . , . . . . B X B . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . W . . O . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . c 2 . . @ B X B . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . 3 b . . O . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . W X . . a . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . W O X X . X . X X W . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O W . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I looked at responses at a, b and c. I'd connect in response to the peep at a, and I think it ends with us both settling.

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[go]$$Bcm57
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . W . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . X . O . W W W . |
$$ | . . W , . . . X . , . . . . B X B . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . W . . O . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 5 . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X 8 4 O . . @ B X B . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X 6 1 2 . . O . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . W X 9 7 3 . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . W O X X . X . X X W . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O W . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
This gives mesome pretty gross shape, and maybe the move on the outside is actually bad? But getting a move in sente seems worth tolerating the dumpling.


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[go]$$Bcm57
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . W . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . X . O . W W W . |
$$ | . . W , . . . X . , . . . . B X B . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . W . . O . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . 2 O 6 . @ B X B . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . 1 3 4 . O . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . W X . . . 5 . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . W O X X . X . X X W . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O W . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
This gives us both very solid shape. White should still live, but has not yet made two eyes. Next, I get to play where I want.
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[go]$$Bcm55
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . W . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . X . O . W W W . |
$$ | . . W , . . . X . , . . . . B X B . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . W . . O . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . 2 . . @ B X B . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . 3 . . . O . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . W X . . . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . W O X X . X . X X W . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O W . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


The main move I considered besides this was resigning. ;-) I'll play a few more moves to see what happens once that group is alive or dead and then count, but I think I've lost.
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Another case where I didn't consider my opponent's next move. I spent a lot of time thinking about it. White's move seems a little loose, and I thought there ought to be some local way to respond. However, all of b, c, d and e seem to get swallowed up, or end up giving me nothing.

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[go]$$Bcm55
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . W . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . X . O . W W W . |
$$ | . . W , . . . X . , . . . . B X B . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . W . . O . . O . 5 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . a . b d . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . c e . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . 2 . . @ B X B . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . 3 . . . O . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . W X . . . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . W O X X . X . X X W . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O W . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
This is the move that I'm leaning towards, though I'm considering a move at a, which I think is forcing. On the other hand, the area to the left of a is so undercut that I'm not sure it's worth much.
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[go]$$Bcm55
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . W . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . X . O . W W W . |
$$ | . . W , . . . X . , . . . . B X B . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . W . . O . . O . 5 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . 2 . . @ B X B . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . 3 . . . O . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . W X . . . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . W O X X . X . X X W . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O W . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

In addition to the fact that the other move I considered was undercut and territorially small, it's just not sente.

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[go]$$Bcm55
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . W . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . X . O . W W W . |
$$ | . . W , . . . X . , . . . . B X B . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . X . . . . c . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . W . . O . . O . 5 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . a . . . . . d . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . b . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , X . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . e . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . 2 . . @ B X B . . . f . . |
$$ | . . O X . 3 . . . O . O . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . W X . . . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . W O X X . X . X X W . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O W . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I've read moves at a-f. I revisited my early count, and white hasn't gained much territory, which makes me think he ought to invade my moyo. But it's not quite an easy enough count for me to be sure. There's certainly territory for him to gain on the left side or on the top.
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Re: Kingo Malkovitch#1: Jeromie vs. Hyperpape

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It's kind of anti-climatic for a Kingo game, but I resign. Thank you for the game.
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Re: Kingo Malkovitch#1: Jeromie vs. Hyperpape

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Thanks for the game.
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