How do I play against Leela Zero on Sabaki?

[Allen]

How do I play against Leela Zero on Sabaki? I can't figure it out from the GitHub.

[Javaness2]

Take a release of LeelaZero https://github.com/gcp/leela-zero/releases (or do you need to actually compile your own version without any AutoGTP!?)
Now you need to tell Sabaki where Leela is (Engines -> Manage)
Now you need to make a new game in Sabaki, then select Engines, Attach

probably you are stuck on one of these steps, but I don't know which it is :p

[Sneegurd]

@OP, for instance use as argument:

--gtp --playouts 2500 --threads 4 --noponder -w theNetworkfile.txt

You can have Leela and Leela Zero play against each other with pretty much the same arguments, Leela11 does not have the -w flag of course.

[Allen]

Hi, thanks you two. It's working now! I think it was adding those extra arguments, which weren't fully listed in the GitHub instructions.

[kdbaby1412]

You know how to set time for LeelaZ?

[drmwc]

You know how to set time for LeelaZ?

Looking at the GTP documentation, http://www.lysator.liu.se/~gunnar/gtp/gtp2-spec-draft2/gtp2-spec.html I would guess it would be including something like:

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--maintime 300 --byo_yomi_time 5 --byo_yomi_stones 1

I haven't tried this, so it may not work.

On another, not the Leela Zero self-play games are definitely entertaining. Here is Game1 from today on my desktop:

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code

[go]$$c LeelaZero self-play
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The challenge is to guess black's next move. (I would never get it right with infinite guesses, so I've given it below.)

$$Bcm7 LeelaZero self-play
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Click Here To Show Diagram Code

[go]$$Bcm7 LeelaZero self-play
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$$Bcm17 LeelaZero self-play
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Click Here To Show Diagram Code

[go]$$Bcm17 LeelaZero self-play
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[Gomoto]

Enter at the GTP console (only there, not possible at command line):

time_settings 0 10 1

0 = main time
10 = time period
1 = stones per period

[Pippen]

I don't have windows 7 so I can't have Sabaki. Any other clients where u can play with Leela Zero?

[sorin]

Enter at the GTP console (only there, not possible at command line):

time_settings 0 10 1

0 = main time
10 = time period
1 = stones per period

Attaching a screenshot for more details - the time_settings go into the "Initial commands (; separated)" line for an engine's settings in Sabaki.

[Gomoto]

a thanks a lot, did not understand the initial commands until now. (I thought it is just a description for the command line options.)

[sorin]

a thanks a lot, did not understand the initial commands until now. (I thought it is just a description for the command line options.)

I thought at first that that is what you meant. Now I realize that you are referring to a different way, at run time, where one can enter a command like you mentioned, "time_settings 0 10 1" for instance (followed by <Enter> key), in the lower part of the Sabaki window. That is even better, since one can change it easily before any computer move, if needed.
Attaching a screenshot to illustrate your way:

[Sneegurd]

So you manually enter GTP commands. Why do GUIs not offer time settings for Leela? At least in Drago all time settings are greyed out when you start a game.
As I understand GTP, the GUI asks for what is supported and Leela should tell "I support time settings", which maybe it does not?

EDIT: The output on the Drago GTP console looks a bit mixed up- the result of list_command is somewhere in between, maybe Drago then cannot understand things.

EDIT2: I asked Reddit as well. https://www.reddit.com/r/cbaduk/comment ... _settings/

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--gtp  --playouts 2500 --threads 4 --noponder -w current_networkfile.txt
list_commands
Using 4 thread(s).
RNG seed: 5142955190987569367
Detecting residual layers...v1...128 channels...10 blocks.
Initializing OpenCL.
Detected 1 OpenCL platforms.
Platform version: OpenCL 1.2 CUDA 9.1.75
Platform profile: FULL_PROFILE
Platform name:    NVIDIA CUDA
Platform vendor:  NVIDIA Corporation
Device ID:     0
Device name:   GeForce GTX 970
Device type:   GPU
Device vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
Device driver: 388.13
Device speed:  1253 MHz
Device cores:  13 CU
Device score:  1112
Selected platform: NVIDIA CUDA
Selected device: GeForce GTX 970
with OpenCL 1.2 capability.
Loaded existing SGEMM tuning.
Wavefront/Warp size: 32
Max workgroup size: 1024
Max workgroup dimensions: 1024 1024 64
BLAS Core: Sandybridge
= protocol_version
name
version
quit
known_command
list_commands
quit
boardsize
clear_board
komi
play
genmove
showboard
undo
final_score
final_status_list
time_settings
time_left
fixed_handicap
place_free_handicap
set_free_handicap
loadsgf
printsgf
kgs-genmove_cleanup
kgs-time_settings
kgs-game_over
heatmap

boardsize 19
=

komi 0
=

[Sneegurd]

BTW, LZ pretty much skyrockets right now!?!

[bohemian65]

I am obviously doing something wrong here.

I am trying to attach leelazero - leelaz.exe to Sabaki

C:\Users\Owen\Desktop\GO\LeelaZero\leelaz.exe
--gtp -threads 4 --noponder -w C:\Users\Owen\Desktop\GO\LeelaZero\weights.txt (I have tried it without the direct address. i.e. weights.txt)
time_settings 0 31 1;

After I start New, I choose Leela Zero as the engine for black and click OK and all that happens is the hourglass comes up and it does nothing, i.e. it never moves.

What am I doing wrong here?

image of settings

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Thanks

[Waylon]

What am I doing wrong here?

Try using two minus signs like this:
--threads