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Hi Tom,
After further thought … maybe it could actually be OK because only one point is false, and A, B, and C could be easy to recognise as correct?
Hmm... :batman:
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EdLee wrote:Referring to the diagram, which of the following is incorrect ? ( 1 point )
A. :w2: has 2 liberties.
B. :b1: is called an "atari" move.
C. The solidly connected 6-stone :black: string has 7 liberties.
D. If White connects the two lower right :white: stones to :w2:, then White will not be "captured".


Well, my knowledge of Chinese grammar is almost non-existent. However, D. in English looks ambiguous to me. When White connects the stones, they still have a liberty, and so will not be captured by the act of connecting, but they may be captured by Black's next play. True, you can figure out by the process of elimination that the test makers mean for D. to be an incorrect statement, but you have to psyche out the test makers.

This is the kind of test question that bugged me in middle school, and still does bug me. (BTW, the American Psychological Association freely admits {or did back in the 1990s} that there are questions on the test for licensure that are ambiguous, and are meant to find out if the applicant thinks like a psychologist. :roll: :roll: :roll: )
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Hi Bill,
However, D. in English looks ambiguous to me.
You're right. After a few unsatisfactory attempts, now I wonder if the ambiguity is built-in the original wording... :study:

I have trouble finding a good translation that is unambiguous and doesn't include variations of the form "...avoid being captured by any attempts from Black". :-|
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“Saturn Run” by John Sandford & Ctein

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Currently reading an extremely exciting SF novel by John Sandford & Ctein: “Saturn Run” and what shall I say, I was happily surprised to see that Our Game is mentioned in it.

I’ll let you know if I find other instances there.

—> https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/24611668-saturn-run
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Bonobo wrote:Currently reading an extremely exciting SF novel by John Sandford & Ctein: “Saturn Run” and what shall I say, I was happily surprised to see that Our Game is mentioned in it I’ll let you know if I find other instances there.

—> https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/24611668-saturn-run
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I like to read science fiction on occasion, but I find the use of the work “poop” to describe 3D printing about as unfortunate a term as when Microsoft described music sharing on their Zune as “squirting” a song. :lol:
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jeromie wrote:
Bonobo wrote:Currently reading an extremely exciting SF novel by John Sandford & Ctein: “Saturn Run” and what shall I say, I was happily surprised to see that Our Game is mentioned in it I’ll let you know if I find other instances there.

—> https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/24611668-saturn-run
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I like to read science fiction on occasion, but I find the use of the work “poop” to describe 3D printing about as unfortunate a term as when Microsoft described music sharing on their Zune as “squirting” a song. :lol:
Perhaps not so far-fetched, though. See https://www.biorxiv.org/content/early/2018/04/02/288746.

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Meanwhile I have advanced a few dozen pages, and I can tell you that Go does play a role a few more times but I won't spoil it for you.

Just one thing: if you have read the awesome thriller “Shibumi” by Trevanian you will get a special kick out of one passage in the book  
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An article in The Atlantic by Henry Kissinger, who is concerned about A.I. as a threat, begins with A.I. mastering Go. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar ... ry/559124/
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The Economist, December 16, 2004: https://www.economist.com/node/3445214
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Sandford & Ctein: Saturn Run
Hi Tom, did you actually highlight on the physical page or was it CG ? :)
Coincidence: a publication I just received in the mail also mentions the same book ( turns out Ctein and I are both alums, him senior to me by about two decades. So the passage you highlighted, I can make some educated guesses of the actual physical locations on campus where the scene really took place during his school years. Of course, one can just ask him. :) )
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EdLee wrote:
Sandford & Ctein: Saturn Run
Hi Tom, did you actually highlight on the physical page or was it CG ? :)
Heh :D Photoshop
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Heh :D Photoshop
Whew! I also like to keep my books in mint condition. :study:
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EdLee wrote:
Heh :D Photoshop
Whew! I also like to keep my books in mint condition. :study:
Oh … well, no, that I don't. I do mark passages in my books, and almost all books I read have dog’s ears.
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