36. walleye (2k) vs. Phelan (7k)

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Re: 36. walleye (2k) vs. Phelan (7k)

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Actually it's probably okay now.
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Re: 36. walleye (2k) vs. Phelan (7k)

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Re: 36. walleye (2k) vs. Phelan (7k)

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I wanted to play in this corner for a long time. And I think the last move Black played lets me do that.

The fourth line, to be closer to my center stone.

I approach from this direction because the top side is pretty thick, while the left is still a bit thin.
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Re: 36. walleye (2k) vs. Phelan (7k)

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Pretty interesting move. I don't have a good response to it, no matter which direction I pick.
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[go]$$c The usual
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$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |[/go]

This common sequence gives me the corner, but White gets to ruin my center moyo with a solid group, that will likely connect to the lone stone.

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[go]$$c Pincer
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |[/go]

:b1: or a would be over concentrated, and again threaten to connect and ruin the center

There is also protecting the corner with B16 or C16, but it seems to be focusing on the wrong area.
So, I jump out first and wait for his reply.
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Re: 36. walleye (2k) vs. Phelan (7k)

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$$ | . . . W . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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OK, now that I've played in all four corners, I'd like to come back to the bottom side.
I have a clear advantage there and the prospect of capturing two black stones, which would be quite big.
In general, in a high handicap game White should fight where he has an advantage or at least equal chances with Black.

I will come back to the top left once the dust settles.

As for my last move, I just want to reinforce my stone there before I turn to attacking. If black protects his stones, I'll take some points in the corner.
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Re: 36. walleye (2k) vs. Phelan (7k)

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I think I can still get sente, if I just defend the corner like this, because of H4 and K4
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[go]$$c
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$$ | . . . X W . . X . X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



I cannot capture right away. Below is one possible variation.

So I just continue to reinforce my stones in bottom right.

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[go]$$Wc
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 6 5 . . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 1 4 O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . 3 2 X . X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


The move in the game puts more pressure on the corner, so Black might respond locally. It is also better for making shape.
If I jump to :w1: , I think Black would surely pull his enclosed stones out at :b2: . I cannot stop it escaping.

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[go]$$Wc
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 4 3 5 . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . 1 6 2 O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X . X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I admit I'm not reading anything amazing after my kosumi in the game. Perhaps this move will confuse Black a little.
I will figure out what to do next after he responds.
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Re: 36. walleye (2k) vs. Phelan (7k)

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[go]$$c
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . X . X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . B . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
His move seems to give me an attack on the left group, and a possibility of living on the bottom. So, that's what I'll try to do.
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[go]$$c
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . W . O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . X . X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I don't know why Black played there. He should have run instead.

I have some forcing moves against the corner
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[go]$$Wc
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . 2 1 . . . . O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . 4 X O . . X . X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X 3 . O . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


but I'm not sure Black will answer my :w3: , so I'll keep them in reserve. At any rate my move in the game seems more urgent.
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Re: 36. walleye (2k) vs. Phelan (7k)

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I don't know why Black played there. He should have run instead.

I have some forcing moves against the corner
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[go]$$Wc
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . 2 1 . . . . O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . 4 X O . . X . X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X 3 . O . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


but I'm not sure Black will answer my :w3: , so I'll keep them in reserve. At any rate my move in the game seems more urgent.

he has to answer 3 or he will lose toomuch.
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Re: 36. walleye (2k) vs. Phelan (7k)

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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O B O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . X . X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I'm expecting this sequence:
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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 4 2 3 . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O 1 O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . X . X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

If this happens, he now has two separated groups, and I can threathen to live in the middle or kill one or the other, while getting thickness on the outside.
Or so I hope.
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Re: 36. walleye (2k) vs. Phelan (7k)

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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . W . . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . X . X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Am I missing something? Here's how I read it
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[go]$$Bc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 1 O 2 . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . 6 4 O X O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O 5 3 X . X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X 8 7 O . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I'm not reading farther than this. It might turn into a capturing race but it doesn't look bad for White.

As for my move in the game, since I don't see how this could be bad for me, there is no way I could let Black connect there.
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Re: 36. walleye (2k) vs. Phelan (7k)

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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O B . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . X . X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
So far, as expected. I'm still not sure what to play next. Maybe one of the letter moves below:
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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . W O B . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . a X b X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . c . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . d . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: 36. walleye (2k) vs. Phelan (7k)

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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . W O X . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . X . X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This is obvious. I reckon Black will try to live inside. I'll figure out how to deal with that after Black plays.
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Re: 36. walleye (2k) vs. Phelan (7k)

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Sorry for the delay. :/ Let me know if you want to set a one day per move byo-yomi.
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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . X . . X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X . X . . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O X . . X . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O O O . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . X . X . O . O . X . X . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . B . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Threathen to live here
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