Go Seigen Cup World Women's Championship

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Re: Go Seigen Cup World Women's Championship

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Main tournament(2nd round)(tonight);

Yu Zhiying vs Oh Yujin
Zhang Xuan vs Xie Yimin
Lu Minquan vs Fujisawa Rina
Ueno Asami vs Rui Naiwei
Kim Chaeyoung vs Gao Xing
Yin Qu vs Choi Jeong
Wang Chengxing vs Oh Jeongah
Li He vs Hei Jiajia
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Re: Go Seigen Cup World Women's Championship

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Quarterfinal matches:

Yu Zhiying vs. Oh Jeongah
Xie Yimin vs. Kim Chaeyoung
Ueno Asami vs. Li He
Lu Minquan vs. Choi Jeong
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Re: Go Seigen Cup World Women's Championship

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Results:

Yu Zhiying beat Oh Jeongah
Xie Yimin lost to Kim Chaeyoung
Ueno Asami lost to Li He
Lu Minquan lost to Choi Jeong
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Re: Go Seigen Cup World Women's Championship

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In semifinal:

Yu Zhiying vs Kim Cheayoung
Choi Jeong vs Li He

Tournament table:

https://www.go4go.net/go/tournaments/news/211
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Re: Go Seigen Cup World Women's Championship

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Semi-final results:

- Choi Jeong beat Li He by resign. I wasn't a fan of Li's play on the lower side / tengen (if I was reviewing a weaker player's game I'd say "just because there's a dot there doesn't mean it's a good move"), and Leela Zero (#128, 2k visits) agrees Choi pulled ahead here, and even more so when Li obediently followed her funky knight's move 'joseki' at top right.
- Kim Chaeyoung beat Yu Zhiying by 1.5.
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[go]$$Wc Choi Jung (white) vs Li He
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . |
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$$ | . . X . . . . . . O . . . O O . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . X O . . X . . O X . . |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . O . . . . O . O X . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]
Black answered 1 with the knight's move (to prevent press one space up), but LZ is not a fan, it wants to kick at a and treat right side pincer stone lightly. I remember at the Amateur gold cup in China Ma Tianfeng 7d (top Chinese amateur) got a good result against one of the European 6/7ds there with this knight's move, and kick as best answer was the conclusion of our analysis (but in that game black's left side was more important so Ma's move was probably very good). LZ also says 4 is a wimp, must cut or at least get bigger corner, and slide too (attach and crosscut, but by then down to 38%).

So final is Korean #1 vs #2, Choi leads 4-0 head to head (with 2 from 2018 female Kuksu title match earlier this year), but Kim is improving, can she step up her game on the big stage?
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Re: Go Seigen Cup World Women's Championship

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I think Kim played a fine game today. She and her sister have improved so much recently.
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Re: Go Seigen Cup World Women's Championship

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Kim Cheayoung won Game 1 of the final over Choi by resign.
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Re: Go Seigen Cup World Women's Championship

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"I am glad that I've achieved my dream of winning the world championship" --Kim Cheayoung 4p
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Re: Go Seigen Cup World Women's Championship

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Kim won the 2nd game by 5.5. Choi played some pretty wacky centre moves, and then this 2 here I really don't understand. Yeah the ladder isn't good, but surely basic cut/connection principles say you need a darned good reason not to cut and let black get the connection? It's not like the 2 got anything amazing or even a contact move with a strong follow-up. I suppose it did help with the n5 attach/cut later so Kim just tenukid that. Maybe p12 is small/light as it already got black to answer at r14, but black is not so sad to have played there as it reinforces the corner (white did manage to live there later due to some helping aji on outside). :scratch:
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[go]$$Bc Choi Jeong (white) vs Kim Chaeyoung
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$$ | . . O O . . . O . , . . . . . X . X . |
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$$ | . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]
I asked LeelaZero, she preferred 2 at 3 but said 2 wasn't so terrible, just -6% (which I think pros can be disappointed about but isn't rare). Biggest mistake so far was d12 cut which allowed black to live on side in sente, prefers d13 shape poke by 8%.
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Re: Go Seigen Cup World Women's Championship

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Can anyone help me identify the European players of this year's Go Seigen Cup World Women's Championship?

From their names translated to Chinese, I can recognise some of them. But is this player involved: http://www.europeangodatabase.eu/EGD/Pl ... y=15774187
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Re: Go Seigen Cup World Women's Championship

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macelee wrote:Can anyone help me identify the European players of this year's Go Seigen Cup World Women's Championship?

From their names translated to Chinese, I can recognise some of them. But is this player involved: http://www.europeangodatabase.eu/EGD/Pl ... y=15774187
In the 1st picture of this article, I think I can pretty clearly recognise Ariane Ougier on the right side: http://sports.sina.com.cn/go/2019-04-26 ... 5140.shtml Does that help...?

Is someone else from Europe there, too?

And: Is there an official website?
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Re: Go Seigen Cup World Women's Championship

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If there are three European players, logically they should be Natalya Kovaleva, Ariane Ougier and Rita Pocsai who were on the podium of the European Women's Go Championship 2018

http://www.europeangodatabase.eu/EGD/To ... n=10686346

Edit: since there are 8 players from Europe and North America, maybe there are 4 from Europe and 4 from America?
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Re: Go Seigen Cup World Women's Championship

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You are right. The 4th placed player in that EU tournament is also playing in this international tournament.
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Re: Go Seigen Cup World Women's Championship

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Yes there are 4 players from Europe and 4 from North America. They played each other for the first round:

Stephanie Yin Vs Cathy Li
Ariane Ougier Vs Rita Pocsai
Gabriel Su Vs Natalia Kovaleva
Feng Yun Vs Dina Burdakova

The next round will be tomorrow:

Hsieh Yimin Vs Gao Xing
Mannami Nao Vs Wang Shuang
Feng Yun Vs Lu Minquan
Nyu Eiko Vs Li He
Ariane Ougier Vs Yang Zixuan
Kim Hyeoimin Vs Natalia Kovaleva
Oh Yujin Vs Stephanie Yin
Cho Seungah Vs Yu Lijun

Yu Zhiying, Rui Naiwei, Wang Chenxing, Kim Cheayoung, Choi Jeong, Oh Jeonga, Ueno Asami, Fujisawa Rina will play in the next round I believe.

I think I would cheer for Oh Yujin this time for her aggressive playing style, although Yu Zhiying and Choi Jeong are favorites for this tournament.

Source with some photos: https://home.yikeweiqi.com/#/gonews/detail/24687?type=1
https://home.yikeweiqi.com/#/gonews/detail/24688?type=1
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Re: Go Seigen Cup World Women's Championship

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At the same time, the 2019 World AI Go Tournament is also happening in the same city in Fuzhou.
After 3 rounds of qualifications, Baduki has 3 wins, Leela Zero and Golaxy are 2 wins and 1 loss.

1st round:

Raynz Vs Go Genius
Baduki Vs Golois
Golaxy Vs Leela Zero https://home.yikeweiqi.com/#/live/board/17523
YXT (Eagle Eyes) Vs Dol Baram https://home.yikeweiqi.com/#/live/room/17516/1/14570425

2nd round:

Leela Zero Vs YXT (Eagle Eyes) https://home.yikeweiqi.com/#/live/room/17526/1/14586414
Baduki Vs Raynz
Dol Baram Vs Golaxy https://home.yikeweiqi.com/#/live/board/17528
Golois Vs Go Genius

3rd round:

Leela Zero Vs Baduki https://home.yikeweiqi.com/#/live/board/17541
Raynz Vs Golois
Golaxy Vs YXT (Eagle Eyes) https://home.yikeweiqi.com/#/live/room/17538/1/14593129
Go Genius Vs Dol Baram

The winner of this AI tournament will play the semi-finalists of the Go Seigen Cup World Women's Championship.

Source: https://home.yikeweiqi.com/#/gonews/detail/24683?type=1 (game records are available when clicking the blue links)

https://home.yikeweiqi.com/#/gonews/detail/24674?type=1
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