#245 Kirby vs. paK0

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$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . . . . W . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . O X O . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . X . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O X . X . O . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . X X X . X X . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O . X O . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X X . X . O . O O . . . O X X O X |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I forgot we were playing this game, but I saw your comment in the other thread.
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Re: #245 Kirby vs. paK0

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No worries, I have all the time in the world.
So connecting is the obvious move.

But in my study journal I mentioned that I don't count enough, so I'll do that first and then decide on what to do.
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[go]$$Wc
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . O X O . . X B X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . X . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O X . X . O . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . X X X . X X . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O . X O . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X X . X . O . O O . . . O X X O X |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Well, I looked into counting, but since he has nothing to count yet and I have cash bottom right and top left I'm gonna say I'm ahead.

We took a few months break from the game, so I guess I have a better perspective of it now.

Overall it is looking great for me(I got handicap stones, duh) and both the bottom and the right are not really alive.

I think I made two big mistakes so far:
- I let him get too much in the center
- I didn't resist hard enough on the left side

Overall he doesn't have anything definitive yet, just a bunch of aji, so as long as I don't screw up too bad this should go great.

I also had another look on the left, I already wrote those stones off, but there are quite a few interesting moves there. D13 and B9 come to mind, but for now I'm happy to just answer his pokes at my stones.
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Re: #245 Kirby vs. paK0

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[go]$$Wc
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . O X O . . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . X . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . W . X . . . . O X . X . O . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . X X X . X X . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O . X O . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X X . X . O . O O . . . O X X O X |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Take the base!
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[go]$$Wc
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . O X O . . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . X . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . O X . X . O . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . X X X . X X . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O B X O . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X X . X . O . O O . . . O X X O X |
$$ | . O X O O . . . . . . . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Bad shape, but pretty much every variation that I read trying to kill the bottom seems to fail because he can play there.

It looks forcing enough and I don't see any really urgent places elsewhere.
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[go]$$Wc
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . O X O . . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . X . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . O X . X . O . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . X X X . X X . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O X X O . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X X . X . O . O O . . . O X X O X |
$$ | . O X O O W . . . . . . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I can't see a way for him to kill me. If he finds a way, he deserves to win.
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Re: #245 Kirby vs. paK0

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Even if black may not be able to kill everything, this is problematic :
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$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . O X O . . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . X . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . O X . X . O . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . X X X . X X . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O X X O . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X X . X . O 1 O O . . . O X X O X |
$$ | . O X O O O . 3 2 . . . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . O X O . . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . X . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . O X . X . O . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . X X X . X X . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O X X O . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X X . X . O B O O . . . O X X O X |
$$ | . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
His last move threw me off a bit, it seems like if he blocks now I can just cut at h2.
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . O X O . . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . X . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . O X . X . O . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . X X X . X X . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O X X O . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X X . X . O X O O . . . O X X O X |
$$ | . O X O O O . . W . . . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . O X O . . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . X . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . O X . X . O . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . X X X . X X . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O X X O . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X X . X . O X O O . . . O X X O X |
$$ | . O X O O O . B O . . . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . O X O . . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . X . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . O X . X . O . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . X X X . X X . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O X X O . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X X . X . O X O O . . . O X X O X |
$$ | . O X O O O W X O . . . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . O X O . . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . X . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . O X . X . O . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . X X X . X X . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O X X O . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X X . X . O X O O . . . O X X O X |
$$ | . O X O O O O X O B . . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . O X O . . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . X . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . O X . X . O . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . X X X . X X . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . O X X O . . X O X O O . |
$$ | . . X X . X . O X O O . . . O X X O X |
$$ | . O X O O O O C O X . . . . . X . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . W . . . . . . . . X . X |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Wc
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . . O X O . . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . X . . . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . O X . X . O . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . X X X . X X . . O O X X . |
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