Isn't the name "Go" too confusing?
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Isn't the name "Go" too confusing?
I think we need a new universal name for it. It would be much more convenient to say the name of the game to someone and they immediately know what it is, instead of inevitably having to explain that it's "a board game like chess".
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Re: Isn't the name "Go" too confusing?
Yes, it's confusing, but it has too much inertia to change. Mr Ing with his millions couldn't persuade people to call it Goe even though he gave them lots of free equipment, sponsored tournaments etc. If you become benevolent world dictator, this could be one of your policies.
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Re: Isn't the name "Go" too confusing?
Igo (EE-GO) is another name. 
I kind of like the glass bead game myself, but nobody calls it that.
I kind of like the glass bead game myself, but nobody calls it that.
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Re: Isn't the name "Go" too confusing?
Baduk— I like using Japanese and Korean terms together (yose, but haengma, etc...). And say Weiqi when using area scoring. Although that might be more confusing
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On Go proverbs:
"A fine Gotation is a diamond in the hand of a dan of wit and a pebble in the hand of a kyu" —Joseph Raux misquoted.
"A fine Gotation is a diamond in the hand of a dan of wit and a pebble in the hand of a kyu" —Joseph Raux misquoted.
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Re: Isn't the name "Go" too confusing?
Das Glasperlenspiel!Bill Spight wrote:Igo (EE-GO) is another name.
I kind of like the glass bead game myself, but nobody calls it that.
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Re: Isn't the name "Go" too confusing?
Amazing book, the glass bead game.Bill Spight wrote:Igo (EE-GO) is another name.
I kind of like the glass bead game myself, but nobody calls it that.
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Re: Isn't the name "Go" too confusing?
sitting in a cafe one day, playing Go, a smartly-dressed battleship strolling past paused, and asked: "what's that game?"
"Go" i replied.
She flushed right up to her well-trimmed eyebrows, and hurried off.
Sometimes a name has its benefits
In Japan, if you ask someone if they play Go, they always reply: "Oh, that's an Old Man's Game!".
So, given that a good name is one that reflects its meaning, Go should be called "omg".
"Go" i replied.
She flushed right up to her well-trimmed eyebrows, and hurried off.
Sometimes a name has its benefits
In Japan, if you ask someone if they play Go, they always reply: "Oh, that's an Old Man's Game!".
So, given that a good name is one that reflects its meaning, Go should be called "omg".
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Re: Isn't the name "Go" too confusing?
When you try to change something that is already standardized, you run into problems...
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Thanks, Ed.EdLee wrote:
I use the Dvorak keyboard and, since I was a terrible typist to start with, a 5% improvement is something that I noticed, and was a welcome improvement.
Another thing is the idea of time/motion studies being elitist. To be sure, they were, because the managers had an elitist attitude towards their workers, anyway. They still do. But sports research today shows that even skilled athletes may not know the best way to use their bodies. As for ordinary tools, ergonomics does help.
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wrong, wrong , wrong, wrong!EdLee wrote:
Dvorak was an idiot who didnt know what he was talking about, let alone the twonk who cant pronounce his name properly.
You only got better, Bill, because you were practising a lot more with more intent.
QWERTY doesn't just fit the keys, it fits the fingers and the patterns of letters that tend to follow each other - alternating left and right hands is easier for typists, whether on mechanical or electronic keyboards. And it fits the musculature and geometry of the human hand, which is more adept at quickly moving the first two fingers in arpeggio than the last two, which is why great guitarists and pianists are few and far between.
Thankfully, there are some good Dvoraks too
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Re: Isn't the name "Go" too confusing?
Thanks to Alphago, many people in Western countries are aware that "go" is an asian board game. If we invent another name, people would be like "what the heck are you talking about?".
The fact that "go" means something else in the English language is not a problem. After all, "bridge" also has two meanings.
The fact that "go" has other names in different countries is not a problem either. Draughts/checkers is called Dames/Dame/Dama/Damas... in other languages.
"Surrender your igo. Be free, be free to yourself."
The fact that "go" means something else in the English language is not a problem. After all, "bridge" also has two meanings.
The fact that "go" has other names in different countries is not a problem either. Draughts/checkers is called Dames/Dame/Dama/Damas... in other languages.
"Surrender your igo. Be free, be free to yourself."
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Re: Isn't the name "Go" too confusing?
A two squared herekj01a wrote:When you try to change something that is already standardized, you run into problems...
Some are better than others; standardising all units to the speed of light, is likely the best way to correlate with other sentients in the galaxy.
Yes, it seems better to just introduce 'baduk' for practical purposes and then also mention it's called Go. Unless someone comes up with an epic new namejlt wrote:Thanks to Alphago, many people in Western countries are aware that "go" is an asian board game. If we invent another name, people would be like "what the heck are you talking about?".
The fact that "go" means something else in the English language is not a problem. After all, "bridge" also has two meanings.
The fact that "go" has other names in different countries is not a problem either. Draughts/checkers is called Dames/Dame/Dama/Damas... in other languages.
"Surrender your igo. Be free, be free to yourself."
Two complementary systems; I sometimes think of go (and chess) having the equivalent to imperial,
used by those playing the game (material advantage, elo, normal distribution) and metric easily understood by those not so familiar (logistic distribution like in mamu)
Goe seems just okay to me (but ING rules are in que to study for a dual rulesets idea
In this case, Korea has already introduced haengma, and most of the go world outside of Asia are more familiar with territory scoring and bi-convex stones than the alternatives used most China, so it might make sense to use Korean in tandem with Japanese.
Hahajaca wrote: . . .
"Go" i replied.
. . .omg
Place and put this. . . A Single-convex shaped spaceship sends down method of communication throughout the galaxy. A Chinese Emporer uses it to make his son smarter.
The Universal game.
On Go proverbs:
"A fine Gotation is a diamond in the hand of a dan of wit and a pebble in the hand of a kyu" —Joseph Raux misquoted.
"A fine Gotation is a diamond in the hand of a dan of wit and a pebble in the hand of a kyu" —Joseph Raux misquoted.