Mac OS Catalina and bots

[wineandgolover]

Quick question for Mac users. Has anybody updated to Catalina? Does everything bot related (LZ, Lizzie, KataGo) still work? I worry about the deprecated Open CL, so want to check first, before updating the OS.

Thanks.

[Uberdude]

I have not, but a colleague at work did a week or two ago and there was much lamenting of all sorts of things breaking, recompiling libraries pain, more restrictive permissions making things harder, kernel panics and several business days lost just getting back to a working dev environment (python and js).

[wineandgolover]

I have not, but a colleague at work did a week or two ago and there was much lamenting of all sorts of things breaking, recompiling libraries pain, more restrictive permissions making things harder, kernel panics and several business days lost just getting back to a working dev environment (python and js).

Guess I’ll wait a bit.

[Bill Spight]

I have already decided neither to upgrade nor to buy a new computer from Apple. Power corrupts. iQuit.

[Bill Spight]

I have updated to 10.15 and everything works. There were practically no problems when upgrading.

Unfortunately, my last two MacOS upgrades have given me problems, some of which I have not recovered from. And I hear that Catalina promises to break iTunes. Also, not only Apple but other manufacturers purposely remove functionality from upgrades. I remember some 25 years ago installing a new version of Microsoft Windows. Fortunately, I could do so without having to remove my current version of Windows. All I had to do was copy certain files from the C: drive to a newly created E: drive. I suppose that I could do a dual boot with different versions of MacOS, but why go through the hassle? Especially since the old version will, in time, become vulnerable.

Edit: Planned obsolescence is nothing new. But computer companies have taken it to a new level. In the future, will 15 year old cars become undrivable because the software is no longer supported and is vulnerable to hacking? The internet of things is even worse, because many of the software providers will go out of business during the lifetime of the things. Not to mention that a household with internet things will have a lot of insecure software on the local network.

[Bill Spight]

Hmmm. Would downgrading my MacOS restore lost functionality?

[xela]

I have already decided neither to upgrade nor to buy a new computer from Apple. Power corrupts. iQuit.

I have a lot of sympathy for this position. Relevant here: https://xkcd.com/2224/