Ownership?

ahd · Post by **ahd** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 9:40 pm

I read on SL that KGS is no longer associated with Kiseido.

Does anyone know who owns the KGS Go Server these days?

Post by **Joaz Banbeck** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:24 pm

William Shubert owns it, and has for about the past 4 years, I think.

LocoRon · Post by **LocoRon** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:28 pm

I thought it was always his, and that it was just sponsored by Kiseido. Could easily be mistaken though.

Post by **Joaz Banbeck** » Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:57 pm

You may be right. Kiseido left about 4 years ago. I don't know exactly what the deal was before that.

The surest way to find out is to send a PM to Schubert. He is 'wms' on this site.

Stefany93 · Post by **Stefany93** » Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:02 am

Joaz Banbeck wrote:You may be right. Kiseido left about 4 years ago. I don't know exactly what the deal was before that.

The surest way to find out is to send a PM to Schubert. He is 'wms' on this site.

Oh yeah like '' Hi Shubert how are you? By the way is it true that you are not the owner of this site? '' :lol:

BigDoug · Post by **BigDoug** » Wed Aug 11, 2010 3:03 am

WMS definitely owns KGS. Kiseido is no longer a sponsor, but the ownership is unaffected by that.

DrStraw · Post by **DrStraw** » Wed Aug 11, 2010 3:31 am

KGS was originally called igoweb and had no association with Kiseido at all. Bill wrote it all himself and has always been the sole owner. Kiseido sponsored it with financial help from the early days and so Bill changed the name to the "Kiseido Go Server". However, Kiseido stopped providing money and so he decided to change the name. The acronym KGS was so firmly established that he decided to just go with that. KGS no longer is an abbreviation for anything, just like BP is no longer officially British Petroleum. Last time I spoke to Bill about it, several years ago, he was peeved that the Kiseido web site continued to say "Play Go online on the Kiseido Go Server (KGS)" (it still does) but he did not think it worth making a fuss.

KGS 4 kyu · Post by **fwiffo** » Wed Aug 11, 2010 5:49 am

I think you're looking for the term "truck number".

I always imagined, now that Kiseido's sponsorship is gone, that KGS stood for "KGS Go Server".

CarlJung · Post by **CarlJung** » Wed Aug 11, 2010 5:55 am

Kool Go Server

karaklis · Post by **karaklis** » Wed Aug 11, 2010 8:06 am

Stefany93 wrote:Oh yeah like '' Hi Shubert how are you? By the way is it true that you are not the owner of this site? ''

Please call him "Shubert-san", or better "Shubert-sama" as we all do. :mrgreen:

DrStraw · Post by **DrStraw** » Wed Aug 11, 2010 8:31 am

fwiffo wrote:I think you're looking for the term "truck number".

I always heard it referred to as the "Mack truck theory".

I am guessing that if anything happened to wms we would have to rely on glue to hold it all together.

Website · Post by **Chew Terr** » Wed Aug 11, 2010 8:39 am

DrStraw wrote:I am guessing that if anything happened to wms we would have to rely on glue to hold it all together.

Bwahaha!

CarlJung · Post by **CarlJung** » Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:03 am

karaklis wrote:
Stefany93 wrote:Oh yeah like '' Hi Shubert how are you? By the way is it true that you are not the owner of this site? ''

Please call him "Shubert-san", or better "Shubert-sama" as we all do.

I refer to him as His Holyness the WMS.

Website · Post by **Chew Terr** » Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:27 am

CarlJung wrote:
karaklis wrote:
Stefany93 wrote:Oh yeah like '' Hi Shubert how are you? By the way is it true that you are not the owner of this site? ''

Please call him "Shubert-san", or better "Shubert-sama" as we all do.

I refer to him as His Holyness the WMS.

Ah, and soon we shall devolve into many more WMSical nicknames! (Get it? Whimsical!?)

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