This is a game i played today. This time i tried to do a full game analysis, but goo a little bit less in depth. I focused on moves that i felt unsure about during the game and moves where AI indicated big losses on my side. It was quite a fast game with only one overtime period, why i made a few blunders i hope would not have taken place in a slower match.
Comments are at moves 10, 26, 34f., 88, 92, 96, 99, 125 and 132ff.
Noles Study Journal
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This is my review for today. I won by time, but would have lost the game otherwise. I talked to my opponent after the game and he told me, that he was once 1k, but has not played since a while, so i think i can still be quite happy with the game. Furthermore AI states that it does not hate any of my moves until 49, which i think is a good thing (even if it's mostly joseki up this point).
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This is todays review. I think i played quite solidly up until messing up my reduction of the bottom side and even after this managed to come back, to make it a close game. In the end i lost by 5.5.Take away for today is that the center is really hard to hold onto i guess 
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I actually think that you did OK in the center.00Noles wrote:This is todays review. I think i played quite solidly up until messing up my reduction of the bottom side and even after this managed to come back, to make it a close game. In the end i lost by 5.5.Take away for today is that the center is really hard to hold onto i guess
You traded center territory for saving your two stones on the top side. Maybe you should have let them go, but you couldn't save them and also seal off the center.As for holding on to territory, it is good to relax that attitude. To paraphrase the great Takagawa, Go is a game of territory, but it is almost impossible to make territory.
That is, you can stake out territory, but territory is actually realized in skirmishes. If you play to make secure territory by yourself, you generally fall behind. The bottom right corner is a good example, Both players played too securely there, ignoring the rest of the board. Some comments on the opening.
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Thanks for your advice bill. I think you made some good points there.
I always feel inclined to answer, when my opponent splits the orthodox, because white A after black tenukis gives white a very comfortable position on the right side, where black wanted to develop. I never thought of this in the way, that Q10 already lessens blacks prospects on this side, especially as it is high and so white could easily ignore and handle Q10 lightly. So i think being a little bit more flexible here, would be good. Black A, White B, Black C for example, to switch the course to the top now.
But i think i guess i understand what you mean by the bottom left being most urgent in this opening also. I think i did not play there, because i'm not really accustomed to the 6-4 joseki. At move 19 for example i did not approach as i was afraid white might just seal me into the corner (maybe in sente) and gets massive development on the left. But as you pointed out beeing afraid is not a good attitude in go especially if there is no reason, as E4 is only very loose and even kind of floating.
Maybe this is the best white can do in the effort of keeping black from settling B4 torwards the right, but i think black gets way here.
I always feel inclined to answer, when my opponent splits the orthodox, because white A after black tenukis gives white a very comfortable position on the right side, where black wanted to develop. I never thought of this in the way, that Q10 already lessens blacks prospects on this side, especially as it is high and so white could easily ignore and handle Q10 lightly. So i think being a little bit more flexible here, would be good. Black A, White B, Black C for example, to switch the course to the top now.
But i think i guess i understand what you mean by the bottom left being most urgent in this opening also. I think i did not play there, because i'm not really accustomed to the 6-4 joseki. At move 19 for example i did not approach as i was afraid white might just seal me into the corner (maybe in sente) and gets massive development on the left. But as you pointed out beeing afraid is not a good attitude in go especially if there is no reason, as E4 is only very loose and even kind of floating.
Maybe this is the best white can do in the effort of keeping black from settling B4 torwards the right, but i think black gets way here.
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If00Noles wrote:Thanks for your advice bill. I think you made some good points there.
I always feel inclined to answer, when my opponent splits the orthodox, because white A after black tenukis gives white a very comfortable position on the right side, where black wanted to develop. I never thought of this in the way, that Q10 already lessens blacks prospects on this side, especially as it is high and so white could easily ignore and handle Q10 lightly. So i think being a little bit more flexible here, would be good. Black A, White B, Black C for example, to switch the course to the top now.
then White can play 
. After that, maybe 
. The best White can do? Especially as White gets an extra stone.But i think i guess i understand what you mean by the bottom left being most urgent in this opening also. I think i did not play there, because i'm not really accustomed to the 6-4 joseki. At move 19 for example i did not approach as i was afraid white might just seal me into the corner (maybe in sente) and gets massive development on the left. But as you pointed out beeing afraid is not a good attitude in go especially if there is no reason, as E4 is only very loose and even kind of floating.
Maybe this is the best white can do in the effort of keeping black from settling B4 torwards the right, but i think black gets way here.
extends towards the side. If 
then Black a. If instead White plays on the left side, then Black can play at 20.The Adkins Principle:
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As i said, i don't really know much about the 6-4 point variations. At just projected a basic pattern from the knights move attachment onto the situation and thought if white cuts at 5 (in my diagram), black plays at 2, white atari, black take and thus black gets a ponuki, whites shape looks like defending the corner wouldn't be to bad of an idea and black extends on the left. Of course, white can just extend down though instead of playing the counter-atari. Albeit obvious i overlooked this one 
It would have never come to my mind to hane underneath, like you showed in your variation. Isn't it still a little too good for white, if A is sente?
PS: I think with "extra stone" for white you mean C11. This was supposed to by move 10. I had a little trouble with double digit numbers in the diagrams.
It would have never come to my mind to hane underneath, like you showed in your variation. Isn't it still a little too good for white, if A is sente?
PS: I think with "extra stone" for white you mean C11. This was supposed to by move 10. I had a little trouble with double digit numbers in the diagrams.
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The underneath hane is a hoary play, but the usual joseki after White pulls back is (was?) not to extend on the 2d line, but to hane again on the 3d line. Then White would cut one way or the other as a sacrifice. The 2d line extension prevents that, so that White has to let Black into the side. I also used to think that this was generally good for White, but the bots like the 2d line extension. Live and learn.00Noles wrote:It would have never come to my mind to hane underneath, like you showed in your variation. Isn't it still a little too good for white, if A is sente?
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