56. Violence(?d) vs Magicwand(3d)

[daniel_the_smith]

Thanks.

In that case, black wins by 3.5.

EDIT:

Actually, I did the math wrong (forgot komi). I recounted and now I get white winning by 1.5.

[SoDesuNe]

When I count Violence's board I have 65 for Black and 67.5 for White, with prisoners, with Komi

[Horibe]

Eric is hilarious. He thinks he is ahead by komi, but he does not count until it is too late.

Then I count and he is ahead by komi

[tj86430]

Strange. I count the same as (japanese rules):
Black: 54 (territory) + 1 (prisoner) + 11 (earlier captures) = 66
White: 49 (territory) + 9 (prisoners) + 7 (earlier captures) + 6.5 (komi) = 71.5

[zinger]

Wow, how can people's counts be so different this late in the game?

After prisoners and komi I count W+6

[Magicwand]

i resign.

i counted and am down more than komi. close to 10 points maybe more.
i can not win this game.
earlier counts i did was false count i posted incase my opponent see my hidden
sorry for giving observers false infomation.

i had good game in the beginning and i guess i didnt attack his group correctly and the lead shifted to his way. and surprisingly he kept his lead all the way to the end.
and also didnt bite my bates. i believe he is stronger than i thought. but i still think i am stronger

nice game Violence.

i will read post comments and post my thoughts after i go home.

thanks everyone for watching this game and sorry for subpar game i displayed.
i will try to have better game on next game.

[Violence]

Thanks for the game, Magicwand.

And so our epic 3 game series is over.

[Chew Terr]

Thanks, gentlemen, this game was a lot of fun to watch.

[Violence]

My god, guys....

Your counts...

I'm incredibly amazed.

My diagram was pretty much a conservative count, and somehow, despite not needing any additional moves... People came up with very different values for the outcome. My diagram should be like W+6-7

[daniel_the_smith]

Thanks, guys. It was a fun game.

I triple-checked my counting. If the endgame went the way Violence predicted, I get 70.5 for W (including 7 prisoners and 6.5 komi) and 66 for black (including 11 prisoners). I see the prisoner count has magically changed to 9 so that makes it W+6.5 by my count. I missed five white points in my count before.

[Li Kao]

SE thinks violence's position is W+6.5 but with only 10 (not 11) white prisoners.

[Magicwand]

My god, guys....

Your counts...

I'm incredibly amazed.

My diagram was pretty much a conservative count, and somehow, despite not needing any additional moves... People came up with very different values for the outcome.

i looked at your count..and i am losing more than your diag. probably 5 points more.
when i am down and end is near..i can not just play correct move and exptect to win.
i twisted sequences and made it complicated as possible but your judgement was impressive.

[Violence]

Yeah... I tend to count conservatively when I actually sit down and count, so it's usually skewed toward my opponent. This is why I don't count until quite late in the game, unless I have to make a big decision, like that ko.

I think I wasn't doing well until I captured the F5 group. To me, that's the turning point in the game.

[Kirby]

Bravo. It's a pity that you two won't play another.

[Magicwand]

Bravo. It's a pity that you two won't play another.

we probably willl meet in L19 game.