New android app "BadukAI"

[And]

yes, first CS +6.5, second CS +83.5

[And]

thank you very much for your fellowship, I'll go try to sleep ...

[go4thewin]

Haha you too man sweet dreams

[akigo]

@And

If I understand Tromp-Taylor rules correctly, suicide moves are legal under this ruleset. And they even don't cost, if there is nothing productive left to do. So everything seems ok, just a little strange for us humans as we are accustomed to other rules.

[And]

suddenly! Thanks for the clarification! glad the program is in order! thanks again for the implementation of KataGo for android!

[akigo]

I made a new version (0.7)

@And
I added a checkbox "winrate on play" in settings. If checked, winrates are displayed for moves of the full AI (the calibrated bot does not calculate winrates for his moves, so nothing can be shown when he plays)

@go4thewin
I added a button "Edit config" in settings for KataGo. On tap, a popup dialog opens where you can edit the three parameters you suggested. Saving them will trigger a restart of KataGo to activate the new values. Keep in mind that KataGo always respects thinking time ("sec/move" from settings). So, if you want it to run a fixed number of playouts in any case, set "sec/move" to a very high value so that it never becomes a constraint.

[go4thewin]

This is the best go ai opponent available. Probably stronger at 1 thread 1 playout than crazystone 5d setting. Its even compatible with chromebook laptops. You are a genious. Complete 30k (15kyu-rank 20b) to 9 dan (40b 1 thread 9 playouts) available to anyone with a $100 smartphone. With analysis and everything. Also, who would have thought katago would have played so fast on android? >20 of the settings (ddk to 5 dan) only use 1 playout. Wow
edit: revised ai strength recommendations attached

[And]

@akigo
thanks!!! wonderful!

[And]

I understand the rules of Tromp-Taylor correctly, suicidal moves are allowed, but only if it's not one stone? because this leads to a repetition of the position, and this is prohibited

in the second game, the last move of black does not break the rules?
sgf saved by BadukAI

[And]

I don’t understand why KataGo plays so poorly with kyu_rank. in the previous post (KG g170e 15 block d466M 4d, CS 4d) in the first game CS B +109.5, in the second he also wins by a large margin. -3 in the settings is it 4d?

[go4thewin]

When I was playing around with it I had -3 with the 20b at around 2k strength. -5 = maybe 1k. I think the 20b is stronger at the higher kyu ranks than the 15b, 15b has more suicide also. Its really hard to get the kyu_ranks into dan, maybe the 15b 1 thread 1 playout with 2 handicap stones would be 1 dan? At 1 dan, better just play against 15b -t1 -p1 until its defeated (2d?), then 20b -t1 -p1 (4d?), then I would think the 40b 1 thread 1 playout (5d?) would beat cs 5 dan. at -8 kyu rank it loses. 40b at -8 kyu rank might also be 1 dan.

[And]

but then what is it about?
viewtopic.php?p=260196#p260196

[go4thewin]

those are based on estimates by the katrain developer. By testing the bots on ogs, he used those estimates. I used breakwa rankings cgos and what I could get from humans playing the bots on reddit. who knows?

these bots are ranked on ogs. For example kyu-rank -1 plays as katrain-2d and has a 1k ranking. The policy plays as katrain-strong.

[And]

thanks! unfortunately on my tablets 20 blocks are terribly freeze, impossible to use! and 40 -

[go4thewin]

i definitely understand, i use a lot of slower hardware too. Get this tablet https://www.ebay.com/i/264884164020?chn ... jKEALw_wcB
it runs all the nets very fast! even baduk ai gpu version works.