Xie Yimin Promoted to 7d!

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Re: Xie Yimin Promoted to 7d!

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Looks like Xie Yimin lost yesterday in the Kesei C league. Does anyone know how many they can lose and still continue?
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Re: Xie Yimin Promoted to 7d!

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MoxElliot wrote:Looks like Xie Yimin lost yesterday in the Kesei C league. Does anyone know how many they can lose and still continue?
Judging from https://gotoeveryone.k2ss.info/news/jp/kisei/46/ and similar brackets from previous years it looks like a 5 round Monrad but with players simply being kicked out when they have 3 losses, and it looks like if you get 2 wins you stay on until next years.

It looks like a much more sensible qualifying tournament format than the single-elimination that appears to be used 99% of the time by pros.
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kvasir wrote: Judging from https://gotoeveryone.k2ss.info/news/jp/kisei/46/ and similar brackets from previous years it looks like a 5 round Monrad but with players simply being kicked out when they have 3 losses, and it looks like if you get 2 wins you stay on until next years.
Correct, you stay in the league until you lose 3 times. Once you lose 3 times you get demoted (DM on the gotoeveryone page) and you go back to qualifying next year. But if you do well (say 2 wins and 3 losses) you have to win only one game to get back to the C league. The more wins you have the fewer games you have to win next year to get back into the C league.

Those with 3 wins 2 losses stay in C league for next year.
Those with 4-1 get promoted to the B league (marked with PM on the gotoeveryone page).
The 5-0 winner gets promoted to B league and also goes to the playoff for the title.
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pajaro wrote:A deciding game to enter the league? Xie vs. Cho?
October 7th

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This match has begun. Enjoy.

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Re: Xie Yimin Promoted to 7d!

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The thing with Japanese games is that, if you blin in a Western game you might miss a ko fight. A Japanese game allows you to get a shower and set up a nice breakfast and they just might have started to decide on the next move. I mean, they've been playing for 6++ hours and they are, kind of, in their 60th move.

And I love it.

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The thing with Youtube is that no matter where you live and when you log in... :lol: :lol:

Well, the game is over. Xie won and she is now 2 games away from the league. Good luck.

It was a solid win, I think, with a good final attack against Cho Chikun, master of shinogi.
no, she didn't kill any dragon
but you don't have to kill to call an attack a sucess
One of the things that I like about Cho, is that even when he loses, he still have things to teach to younger players.
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Yeah was a great game to watch! Hard to choose who to cheer for but was on Xie Yimin's side. Would be amazing to see her compete for a major title! (Cho Chikun already has a few)
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Since people may check on this thread but and not otherwise be aware. Another of her games in the last preliminary tournament of the Meijin cup is being streamed today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WQC06dZZzY. To make it even sweeter there is no percentage bar to spoil it for the viewer.
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Hey, hey! She won again! No AI "help" for viewers (because no record keeper either), but after a day of work outside the office, she was still playing and was kind enough to pick a win for her fans ;)

Now she will play Ida Atsushi (who played and won today too) for a seat in the league. It will be a tough game. Ida has played in the Kisei C league this year, not in other leagues other years, that I could find. So although he is 8 dan (8d, 8p, whatever), the gap between them is perhaps not too big. The motivation for both of them will be big.

Good luck.
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Ida Atsushi has won the Judan title, challenged for the Honinbo and won the NHK tournament, all in 2014-2015. He has also won the Okan cup 6 times straight, this is a local (non-Tokyo) branch tournament of the Nihon Kiin that also includes Hane Naoki. This is certainly the biggest obstacle so far.
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Another great game (and win) for Xie Yimin! She beat Tsuneishi Takashi 4D in a very close game.

I think she is now in the finals of the last preliminary for the Meijin league.
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kvasir wrote:Ida Atsushi has won the Judan title, challenged for the Honinbo and won the NHK tournament, all in 2014-2015. He has also won the Okan cup 6 times straight, this is a local (non-Tokyo) branch tournament of the Nihon Kiin that also includes Hane Naoki. This is certainly the biggest obstacle so far.
You are right... I didn't search back in time enough to find those feats.

Could we say that he is already declining, thus she will win?

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pajaro wrote:
kvasir wrote:Ida Atsushi has won the Judan title, challenged for the Honinbo and won the NHK tournament, all in 2014-2015. He has also won the Okan cup 6 times straight, this is a local (non-Tokyo) branch tournament of the Nihon Kiin that also includes Hane Naoki. This is certainly the biggest obstacle so far.
You are right... I didn't search back in time enough to find those feats.

Could we say that he is already declining, thus she will win?

;-)
I don't know much about Ida, but I can guess that he is a formidable player from his records at https://www.nihonkiin.or.jp/player/htm/ki000427.html

And I can also guess that he is not much fun at parties from his dusty Twitter account (linked on that page)
https://twitter.com/ida_atsushi/status/ ... 26304?s=20
By the way, he follows Xie but Xie does not follow him back. ...Maybe because Ida does not post...
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