#268 Gorim vs jlt

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Black 1 is huge.
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But black 1 at 2 is not small either.
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[go]$$Bcm97 Captures B:0 W:1
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I must be missing something but what?
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I really feel like waiting for some blunder of my opponent, can't find any significant way of earning points.
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[go]$$Bcm101 Captures B:0 W:1
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jlt wrote:
Extending is not possible.
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[go]$$Bcm101 Captures B:0 W:1
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[go]$$Bcm101 Captures B:0 W:1
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But the hanging connnection is.
The really most difficult Go problem ever: https://igohatsuyoron120.de/index.htm
Igo Hatsuyōron #120 (really solved by KataGo)
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[go]$$Bcm101 Captures B:0 W:1
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[go]$$Bcm103 Captures B:0 W:1
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It looks like black can play E9 and have a easy endgame leading to a 10 point win.
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[go]$$Bcm103 Captures B:0 W:1
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$$ | . . X . X O . . . . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . X O X O . . . . . . . O . X . 3 . . |
$$ | . X X O X . . O . . . . . O O O . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . O X X X . . O X O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O X . . X . X X X . . . |
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Hard to decide if this is the best move, but it seems to be the biggest. B14 and H2 are big too, but both are gote for me, and with R6 in place I can later play K7 to limit white gain in the center.
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$$ | . O . O . O O . O , . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . X . X . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . 2 X O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X X . . . X O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O X X X . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O O O O X . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O . . . . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . X O X O . . . . . . . O . X . X . . |
$$ | . X X O X . . O . . . . . O O O . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . O X X X . . O X O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O X . . X . X X X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . O . O X . X . . |
$$ | . O . O . O O . O , . . O X . X . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . X . X . O . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . 3 X . . . . . . X O O X . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O X X O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X X . . . X O O O X . . . . |
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$$ | . X O X O . . . . . . . O . X . X . . |
$$ | . X X O X . . O . . . . . O O O . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . O X X X . . O X O , X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O X . . X . X X X . . . |
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