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Offline goame
 Post subject: Apple Studio should be great for Go
Post #1 Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 4:03 am 
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https://www.apple.com/mac-studio/

Look at the GPU cores and the 128 GB DDR5 RAM.
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Offline RobertJasiek
 Post subject: Re: Apple Studio should be great for Go
Post #2 Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 5:03 am 
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€4300 ~ 9200 for what a PC can achieve for €2200, unless you actually need to train a neural net and 128 GB VRAM-equivalent are useful so that a workstation would be in similar or larger price territory. Besides, software needs to be adapted to M1 Ultra.

Rather dream of 7970XT or 4090 actually becoming available (instead of immediately going to miners). I dream of 4070 because 4080 will have too high TDP. We have to wait whether Apple Studio is as silent under maximum load as the least noisy case fans at 37dB, which are the loudest PC component in a well configured aircooled 3080 PC.
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Offline CDavis7M
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Post #3 Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:55 am 
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Seems like spam advertisement as no discussion was presented and the product is hardly related to computer Go besides the fact that it is a computer and not even a good choice for computer Go.
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Post #4 Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 8:32 am 
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CDavis7M wrote:
Seems like spam advertisement as no discussion was presented and the product is hardly related to computer Go ...


I agree.

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Offline goame
 Post subject: Re: Apple Studio should be great for Go
Post #5 Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 12:08 am 
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RobertJasiek wrote:
€4300 ~ 9200 for what a PC can achieve for €2200, unless you actually need to train a neural net and 128 GB VRAM-equivalent are useful so that a workstation would be in similar or larger price territory. Besides, software needs to be adapted to M1 Ultra.

Rather dream of 7970XT or 4090 actually becoming available (instead of immediately going to miners). I dream of 4070 because 4080 will have too high TDP. We have to wait whether Apple Studio is as silent under maximum load as the least noisy case fans at 37dB, which are the loudest PC component in a well configured aircooled 3080 PC.


But it should be perfect for lizzie gui and Katago neural network.
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Offline RobertJasiek
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Post #6 Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 1:49 am 
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Do both simply run or must their code be adapted? Which Katago version would possibly work - OpenCL? Anyway, testing would help but who wants to spend the money?
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Post #7 Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 5:11 am 
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Personally I think the killer box from Apple is the iPad Air 2022 announced this week. It has an M1 chip and starts at $600. I run A Master of Go on my old iPad Air 2 but it is definitely not up to it. So I expect to finally retire that old friend this summer.

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Offline RobertJasiek
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Post #8 Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 8:48 am 
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Let us know playouts/s when you get one!
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Offline RobertJasiek
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Post #9 Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 8:33 am 
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Matthew Moniz compares Blender on the GPU for a Mac Studio with M1 Ultra to an I9-12900K and RTX 3080TI. Samples per minute, higher is better.

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Test      PC   Mac  Factor

Classroom 1359 271  5.0
Junkshop  1570 273  5.8
Monster   2755 568  4.9

Average             5.2
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Offline RobertJasiek
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Post #10 Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2022 3:19 am 
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Here are more related tests from Youtube:


Dave2D: 3 Blender tests combined:

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3090 3080 Mac

5552 5083 1132

4.9  4.5  1    Factor




Tally Ho Tech, one Blender car scene:
MacBook Pro 13 v M1 v M1 Ultra in MacBook Pro 16 v Alienware x15 with intel 12900H and RTX 3080 Ti.

Code:
Time         s        Factor  Notebook

2'59.30"  =  179.30"   6.23   Macbook Pro 13 M1

2'20.45"  =  140.45"   4.88   Macbook Pro 13 M2

1'11.68"  =   71.68"   2.49   Macbook Pro 16 M1 Max

0'28.76"  =   28.76"   1      Alienware x15, 12900H, RTX 3080 Ti Laptop
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