I see that I'm listed as bronze for 2v2s... It's not my fault I protest!

In my defense, at the end of the beta I was mid Gold... thats ok right

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"There are no limits. There are plateaus, but you must not stay there, you must go beyond them. If it kills you, it kills you. A man must constantly exceed his level." -- Bruce Lee

There's too much to learn/handle all at once, so just pick one thing at a time to add to your repertoire. I didn't chrono boost or use mules for a while, nor did I use sentries (which I find are impossible to get by without now), banelings, defilers, well, pretty much anything :p. I just built at least one of every building, never stopped producing workers, expanded when my main was saturated with workers (and thus had reason to keep on going producing more workers) and mostly massed one or two kinds of units and ignored everything else ... well, that's what I tried to do and often still failed at :p.

It's like in go, where there's no point trying to be clever and subtle with things like aji and tesuji and whatnot when you can't even determine where the big moves are.


I find there's nothing worse than sitting in my base wondering what's going on in the rest of the map. Even if there's no other reason, it's good to find out what they have by forcing them to respond to what you have. One way of keeping the game more predictable is to keep forcing your opponent into fights. They can't easily sit back and tech to some unit you weren't expecting and surprise you with it, and if they do surprise you with something, then it was in a fight near their base, and you have some time to try and get a counter out by the time they get to your base. Also, if you're able to choose where the fights occur, all those expansions you snuck in out of the path between your main and theirs won't have to be defended :p.

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Oooh: http://sea.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/44438
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19/02/2011: this grumpy person takes a voluntary holiday from L19.

I agree with this advice. Just get basic units that are generally useful in all situations. For Terran, it's marine/marauder. For Protoss, it's zealot/stalker. For Zerg, it's zergling/roach/muta most likely. Do the same build every single game. Then it really just comes down to practice. As it becomes quicker and easier, you can start adding in new things to think about, one by one.

EDIT: Fwiffo, I just checked your profile, and it says you've only played 12 league games! No wonder you're overwhelmed! Would you expect great things from someone who had played 12 games of go in their life? You just need to practice, that's all.Awesome! PM me some time and we'll play.

Found the original article on it: http://sea.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/23067#blog

Once they implement it (they're aiming for 'within 60 days of launch'), I'll have to see what my latency to the US is like. Should be fine for casual games, regardless.

It'll be interesting to see how my rank compares between here and there.

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19/02/2011: this grumpy person takes a voluntary holiday from L19.

I finally bought the game today. The bronze league has no idea what is coming.

NORTH AMERICA
tartuffe.858

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I am Tartuffe from GoDiscussions.com

I'm currently on a friends guest pass. I might eventually get the game, but got so much other stuff going on right now might be a while.

For the next 24 hours, I guess you could find me as Schultz id: 325.

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Araban got me interested in Starcraft 2 and now I own a copy and am having quite a lot of fun. It's nice to have another game that can be played competitively that is very challenging and very different but also weirdly similar to go.

I think the main enjoyment comes from that feeling of being `in the zone' and the feeling of improvement and driving towards mastery. There was a nice thread about being in the zone/flow for SC2 which can also be applied to go at http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=142131. It's nice to be able to see my self improving at something again (something that I haven't seen for a long time in go).

I'm new to RTS but somehow managed to get placed in Platinum and seem to be 50/50 mainly against Gold players so I guess I'm around that level for now. It would be great if anyone wanted to play/train/whatever with me. I'm also Tooveli on SC2 (Europe).

There is a native OSX version, too. It also appears to work well with Wine under Linux.

As for 6-pooling and zergs ... well, it works in bronze and silver, so people use it. I do occasionally too, though I admit it feels a bit cheesy. Zerg is fairly weak to rushes in the early game and in my experience (bronze, silver) eight out of ten people will rush with zealots or marines. 6-pool can prevent that, though if it fails (you can kill the six initial zerglings with your harvesters, and by the time the next 2+2+2 arrive, people usually have zealots or marines), the game is pretty much over for the zerg player.

Even though I'm guilty of occasionally 6-pooling, I do find the rushing and cheesing a bit of a downside of the game, especially the more "difficult" to counter methods, like cannon rushing.

I seem to prefer 2vs2 and 3vs3 over 1vs1, but since the game matches random players/teams against premade teams, this is often rather frustrating. That's one of the design decisions that completely baffle me. The layout of most maps is another.

The problem about 6-pool is that the Zerg are not as fast as you might think. It is not so uncommon that a good Protoss player has his first zealot out before the Zerg has the first wave of zerglings ready. Add the walking time, and you can pretty much forget it.

That is of course only when both players are building for fast attack

I'm the only Gold league player on the list? Where are all the average players at? Go mediocrity!

I've also added the usernames to our own custom division over at sc2ranks (which is amazing and constantly improving; hopefully Blizzard takes note). This will make it easier for me since now anyone wants to be added in can just do so by visiting the link. Still debating whether to just clean the first post and have the custom division shown instead; the division is more organized, but doesn't show player regions (and avatars ) on the front page. I should also note that it only shows your 1v1 league by default; so anyone who has placed into a league other than 1v1 won't see their username on the front page. And of course, if you haven't placed into a league yet you can't be in the division (it won't let me ).

All I know is that it shows I play too much :p.

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19/02/2011: this grumpy person takes a voluntary holiday from L19.

Don't worry, there are people who play A LOT more than you

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I know nothing.

Like this guy : http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/966826/1/Pennoyer/

That league is great. I'm not sure why but looking at it really made me want to get better. This might be tricky though as I'm considering switching to random yet have no practice with the T/Z.

oO

Ok, when I stay up to try win 10 matches for the next icon, I think that means it's time to take a break, maybe a week :p. Also, I think I should play more games late at night (or is that early in the morning :p), it's so nice when there's no lag ... It makes such a huge difference, even to macro. When it hitches every few seconds, it really disrupts your concentration! I wonder how many people think they're no good, and it's their connection/computer :p.

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19/02/2011: this grumpy person takes a voluntary holiday from L19.

Instead of keeping both a list of L19 SC2 players and a custom L19 league, I adjusted the league to be for everyone in the Go community instead. This way it won't be redundant to keep both and we can hopefully see how many Go players instead of just L19 members are playing the game right now.

Add me. Name's usagi.

I just got the game a few days ago and I am busy with my book so I am still in the improving/choosing a race to settle down with stage.

Cool . I'll need your character number though, as there are 9 users in NA+EU with the same character name as yours. You could also add yourself into the Go division and I can check and plug: http://sc2ranks.com/c/36/

How do I find out my character number?