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problem from game

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This is a position from a DGS game I finished not to long ago. Does black need to spend a move connecting the center stones, or can black play elsewhere? Looked at another way, can white cut off the marked stones?

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[go]$$Bc can white cut?
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . X O X X O . O X . . . |
$$ | . O X . . X X . X X O O . O X . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . X O O . O . O . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X O . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . X O . . O X . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . B B O O O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O B B O X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . B . O X . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O O B , O X . . O , X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . B . X O O . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . X . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . O O . . O . . . . . . . O . O X . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . X X X O . . . |
$$ | X X . . . O . . . . X . . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . . O . X X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . O . X O . X . . . . O X O . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . O X . . . . . X X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: problem from game

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Looks connected to me.
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Re: problem from game

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White at M7 looks interesting to me, but I don't think it works just yet.
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Re: problem from game

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The only possible move to disconnect would be M7 but black can answer with K6 and all is safe. Black needs to watch out as the position changes.

An interesting move in this position is S7. How should white respond to that?
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Re: problem from game

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What about something like this?

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[go]$$Wc can white cut?
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . X O X X O . O X . . . |
$$ | . O X . . X X . X X O O . O X . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . X O O . O . O . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X O . . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . X O . . O X . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . B B O O O X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X O O B B O X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . B . O X . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O O B , O X . . O , X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . B . X O O . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . 5 X . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . O O . . O . . . 4 3 1 . O . O X . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . 2 . X X X O . . . |
$$ | X X . . . O . . . . X . . . X O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . . O . X X O O . |
$$ | . . . X . O . X O . X . . . . O X O . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . O X . . . . . X X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: problem from game

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emeraldemon wrote:What about something like this?


Your move 2 would be very bad as it doesn't really protect anything. You have to be more indirect as I showed in my earlier post.
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Re: problem from game

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Despite :b2: looking bad, it appears that black is still connected after that sequence.
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Re: problem from game

Post by emeraldemon »

You're both right, I was looking at this wrong. Thanks for the help!
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