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 Post subject: Re: sumiyaka/kex Malkovich #4
Post #21 Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 6:26 am 
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[go]$$Wcm Move 62, prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . X . . X X . O O X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . O . O . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X X . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . W . . X . . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . X . O . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


As planned.

My idea is that the cut at a and continuing to keep black separated with b are good enough for the white group to survive. So I want to keep pressure on the black running group, building a wall while doing that.

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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . X . . X X . O O X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . O . O . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X X . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . b . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . W . a X . . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . X . O . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Black has a forcing move:

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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . X . . X X . O O X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . O . O . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X X . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . X 1 . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X 2 . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . X . O . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


But I think it does not help black too much...

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Post #22 Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 6:43 pm 
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Wow, sorry, I've been distracted.

Spied a little thing and I followed her all night
In a funky fine Levis and her sweater's kind of tight
She had a west coast strut that was as sweet as molasses
But what really knocked me out was her cheap sunglasses
Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah
---- ZZ Top, Cheap Sunglasses (cause its what is spinnin at the moment!)


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[go]$$Wcm Move 62, prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . X . . X X . O O X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . O . O . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X X . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . B . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . X . O . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Basically, I am just trying to stay "ahead" of white here so I don't get surrounded and day-ed.

The problem with this, of course, is white is building up something that can help him invade the left side. But, I don't see how to deal with both of my problems at once. The reason I am not panicking is because white's top is vulnerable, and black has moves against white's bottom right group too.

But this stage of the game is clearly benefiting white.

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Post #23 Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 9:54 am 
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[go]$$Wcm Move 64, prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . X . . X X . O O X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . O . O . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X X . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . X W . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . X . O . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


The main thing to do now is to keep the black groups separated - to push between them. It makes the running black group weak, and might give still some profit.

The moves I considered:
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . X . . X X . O O X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . O . O . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X X . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . c X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . B . a b . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O e . X d . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . X . O . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Here, a and c do not work, and b looks ugly.

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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . X . . X X . O O X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . O . O . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X X . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . B . 1 4 . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . X 2 . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X 3 . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . X . O . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . X . . X X . O O X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . O . O . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X X . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . B . . 4 2 O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . O 3 O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . X . O . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . X . . X X . O O X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . O . O . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X X . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . B . . 3 2 O 5 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . O 4 O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . X . O . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

(well, I might still get something in the middle, but the destruction of the side is certain, while the middle is still uncertain)

So d is left:
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . X . . X X . O O X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . O . O . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X X . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . B . 2 5 . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O 3 4 X 1 . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . X . O . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

It keeps the black groups separated. 3 is a forcing move, strengthening the white wall.

So the last question: should I force first?

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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . X . . X X . O O X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . O . O . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X X . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . B . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O 1 4 X 2 . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X 3 . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . X . O . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

This way of playing does not look so good. And another variation
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . X . . X X . O O X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . O . O . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X X . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . B . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O 1 3 X 2 . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O 4 O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X 5 . 6 X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . X . O . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X 7 . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Black gets more than white...

So I don't try to force first.

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Post #24 Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 10:27 am 
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[go]$$Wcm Move 65, prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . X . . X X . O O X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . O . O . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X X . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . B . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . X O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . X . O . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Just a quick move...

Yes, white can continue to peep, poke, prod, and generally make life miserable for this group...

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Post #25 Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 9:37 am 
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[go]$$Wcm Move 66, prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . X . . X X . O O X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . O . O . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X X . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O W . X O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . X . O . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Wcm Move 68, prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . X . . X X . O O X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . O . O . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X X . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X W . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O B X O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . X . O . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


OK. So I want to reinforce the white colon. It makes it more difficult for black to turn left when fleeing. Black is very likely to answer.

So what next? As I told before, it is crucial to keep black separated:

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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . X . . X X . O O X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . O . O . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X X . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . B 3 . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O 1 2 X O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . X . O . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Black has now two options that somehow work:

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[go]$$Wc0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . X . . X X . O O X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . O . O . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X X . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 7 . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . 8 . 4 5 . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 3 X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X 1 . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . X . O . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


leaving sente for white to e.g. start attacking the top black group.

Something like this is better for black, so it is more likely:

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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . X . . X X . O O X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . O . O . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X X . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 2 X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . B 1 3 O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . X . O . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Leaving sente for white.

Black is probably not going to play this way:

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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . X . . X X . O O X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . O . O . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X X . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0 6 . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . 9 8 7 O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . B 1 4 O 5 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X O . O 2 O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . X . O . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Because this is likely to end up in white getting the black centre group.

Or even worse ( :b8: at :wc:) :
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . X . . X X . O O X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . O . O . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X X . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . 5 7 O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . B 1 4 W 6 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X O . O 2 O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . X . O . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Wcm Move 69, prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . X . . X X . O O X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . O . O . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X X . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . X . O . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


As expected white peeps.

Now to see if the trigger is expecting me to go here.

He was. He can't cut yet so this is safe. If white does cut I will go to Q8 with the aim of cutting off the white side stones for 16 more points.

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[go]$$Wcm Move 70, prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . X . . X X . O O X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . O . O . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X X . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O W O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . X . O . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


As expected. Next, I expect:

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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . X . . X X . O O X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . O . O . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X X . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . B X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . X . O . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Since a hanging connection allows a nasty peep.

I also considered the other option:

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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . X . . X X . O O X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . O . O . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X X . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . a . . . . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 B X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X 3 X O 2 O 5 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X O . O 4 O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . X . O . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Something like this would give black and white approximately the same amount of points. But it is easy to reduce for black by playing somewhere like at a. So I decided not to.

The concern about the chosen line is the thickness black gets against the top white group - so I need to use the sente to attack the black group on the top to strengthen the white group.

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Just an additional comment, not found in my previous post.

I just noticed a nice end-game sequence, depending on the weakness of the connection between the black groups:
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . X . . X X . O O X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . O . O . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X X . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . X X 0 9 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 5 1 2 8 . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . 4 3 O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . X . O . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


:b4: at :wc:
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . X . . X X . O O X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . O . O . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X X . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X . 5 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 W X 1 |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O X X 3 |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . X . O . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


There are some variations, but you get the idea...

The question is just whether to play it now or later :)

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[go]$$Wcm Move 71, prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . X . . X X . O O X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . O . O . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X X . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . B . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . X . O . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . X . . X X . O O X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . O . O . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X X . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . x . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . y b . , . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . a X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . B O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . X . O . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


The marked stone isn't important to me, but my "jim" group and my 3 to right are. "Protecting" the marked stone at either of the spots marked 'a' or 'b' doesn't seem good. In fact, 'b' just gives white the ability to continue to mess with me. I looked at both points 'x' and 'y', and I think they are both okay. 'x' stretches me a little further so I'm going with that idea.

What if white cuts...

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[go]$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . X . . X X . O O X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . O . O . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X X . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . 3 x , . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 2 X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X 4 X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . X . O . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


It will be interesting to see what white thinks is important next. White still has sente. The cut at 'x' is interesting to consider. I think If white tries that immediately I will turn my attention to the top group, and then see what the best course of action is to handle that cut.

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[go]$$Wcm Move 72, prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . X . . X X . O O X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . O . O . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X X . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . W . . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . X . O . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


My opponent made a multipurpose move. First, it seems like a really good move. It threatens my group on the upper side, protects the cut and connects the black groups together.

On a closer look, I am not sure it achieves its goals so well.

My intention is to play 1, as it ensures that my group at the top will get out. Black has two main options: a and b, to protect. If tenuki, black will suffer a big loss here when white c.
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . X . . X X . O O X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . O . O . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X X . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . a B . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . 1 b . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . c X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . X . O . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


After this, I need to go immediately to the cutting move. According to my reading, black can not really cut this (an example):

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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . X . . X X . O O X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . O . O . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X X . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0 . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . B 9 8 1 2 . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . W B 7 6 4 3 O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . X . O . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


or (after 9, a and b are options for white, black cannot cover both)
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . X . . X X . O O X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . O . O . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X X . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . B . . 1 3 4 . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . W B 6 b , 2 O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . a 8 5 X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X 7 X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . X . O . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Before the move, however, an important point. I think white can live - a and b are miai for an eye, and c is a certain eye. So, yes, after the health check - I'll just go for it.

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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . X . . X X . O O X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . O . O . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X X . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . B . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . O a |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X O c O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . X . O . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . b . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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This game has been adjourned. We'll hopefully continue in the autumn.

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Okay, I'm back to continue what may turn out to be the longest Malkovich game... ever. But it survived a server move, I can't let a little thing like life stand in the way of its completion. Go has taken a bit of a detour in my life recently. I'm still playing through games on Dragon, but at a pretty slow pace. Malkovich moves are a little more costly to make than a move made with the same consideration on Dragon. :P

I will be moving everynight until the game is done.

That being said, this first move back will have no commentary from me except this open comment... Anything else I look at gets me cut up into ribbons (starting with O9 directly or something else disruptive like O10 for white) or doesn't affect white in any interesting way. If anyone asks I will enumerate the ways in further moves! I'll count again when this fight is over, and as always continue to read out some of the more worrisome spots on the board.

Hmm, I see some improvements to the forum, I will look around, but is anyone using the eido-go plugin to show their Malkovich "thinking"?

Anyway, the move ...

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[go]$$Wcm Move 73, prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . X . . X X . O O X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . O . O . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X X . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . O B . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . X . O . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


And the song...

Oh, where oh where can my baby be?
The Lord took her away from me
She's gone to heaven, so I got to be good
So I can see my baby when I leave this world.
--Last Kiss

(EDIT: Updated move number )

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It is nice to see sumiyaka return, but... When I looked at the board, I first noticed I had forgotten everything about this game. Now things are returning slowly to my mind, and I see I have to do a lot of reading and judging (I decided not to cheat by looking my old thoughts :) ).

But that means I'll not be able to move today. I hope I'll be able to do that tomorrow.

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kex wrote:
It is nice to see sumiyaka return, but... When I looked at the board, I first noticed I had forgotten everything about this game. Now things are returning slowly to my mind, and I see I have to do a lot of reading and judging (I decided not to cheat by looking my old thoughts :) ).

But that means I'll not be able to move today. I hope I'll be able to do that tomorrow.


No hurry, but I'll post to keep in the habit ;)

My suggestion for your move... you put down a stone, I put down a stone, and we both try to kill each other like civilized people... ( Yes, I've watched too much Princess Bride in my lifetime )

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[go]$$Wcm Move 74, prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . X . . X X . O O X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . O . O . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X X . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . W . O X . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . X . O . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


OK. So, perhaps I will not read very deeply now, anyway.

The point is - I may be a bit behind in area. But the white group on the right side will live. And the top corner is white. Black group on the top side is weak, but white cannot attack, because of the weakness of the top white group. So it needs reinforcement. Now - the moves

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[go]$$Wcm Move 74, prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . X . . X X . O O X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . O . O . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X X . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . c . X O . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . b . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . a . O X . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . X . O . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


"A" tries to connect the running groups, but does not actually succeed, methinks. It also tries to seal black in, and does not totally succeed. But it should strengthen the top white group, together with the earlier forcing move.

"B" is a move that threatens to cut black in two. White gets something out of it, so there might be not so many points for black there as it first looks like:

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[go]$$Wcm This probably would not happen
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . X . . X X . O O X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . O . O . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X X . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . a 0 . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X 9 8 1 2 . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . W . O X 7 6 4 3 O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . X . O . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


"C" is one start of an attack towards the black group on the top. That would need a stronger white group on the top, and further consideration: should white seal black in or set black running.

Due to the white stones on the centre, white can probably reduce black on the lower left side pretty well.

So, this move first, then let's see what black will start, as this fight comes to a pause.

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Post #36 Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 7:13 am 
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To hear his hammah ring (lo' lo'),
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[go]$$Wcm Move 75, prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . X . . X X . O O X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . O . O . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X X . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , B . . . . O . O X . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . X . O . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Fight is over for the most part, my opponent chose to keep the top protected with his move, and my groups are safe. There is potential for me to get some points in the small pocket around q11. I think if black plays r11 about 8 points are made in gote. I think white can take away 4 points in sente with a similar move. Since its only worth 4 points to me either way, I'm not going to play there now.

My count

Black:
(provided its safe) lower right about 6
upper right 17 ( includes the 4 point "pocket" I mentioned above.
N17 group I will grant 8
lower left 9
and my side will grant 5

Total 45 (unless I added wrong) [ and has sente -- or is at least taking it rightly or wrongly ]

White:
upper left 22
Q17 group (top to bottom) group 14
Q3 group 6
komi 6.5

White 48.5

Seems like a close game.

The question becomes how many points can either side make in the F7 area. White has a bit strength in the middle. There is also the move of C12 to consider. Both sides benefit a lot by it, but its gote for black, sente for white.

My moves to consider:

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[go]$$Wcm Move 74, prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . X . . X X . O O X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . O . O . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X X . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . b . . . . . . O O . O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , a . . . . W . O X . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . X . O . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Both moves are gote. I like 'a' a little better because it makes the fight during the inevitable invasion a little more in black's favor, and seems to "secure" the same amount of points as 'b'. It also makes white's potential side extension gote. It also helps cast a shadow over the area of the board that holds the most unclaimed dots.

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[go]$$Wcm Move 76, prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . X . . X X . O O X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . O . O . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X X . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , X . . . . O . O X . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . W . . . . O O X X O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . X . O . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


First - black left some aji behind...
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[go]$$Wcm
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . X . . X X . O O X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . O . O . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X X . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . 7 8 . . . |
$$ | . . X , X . . . . O . O X 2 5 6 . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 4 . 1 X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X 3 X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . X . O . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This 3 threatens to cut the black stones, so even if black ataris first, black needs to come back, and choose, to give the stones or to risk a tradeoff with the white stones on the top.

The nasty thing on the white's viewpoint is that the last black move also helps the black group on the top. I think reducing the black framework is the most urgent thing to do, anyway.

I even considered invasion:
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[go]$$Wcm
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . X . . X X . O O X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . O . O . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X X . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X 4 B . . . . O . O X . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . 3 . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . 5 . . . . . X . X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . 1 . 2 . . . O O X X O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . X . O . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


but here, this looks bad
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[go]$$Wcm
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . X . . X X . O O X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . O . O . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X X . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X 5 B . . . . O . O X . . , . O . |
$$ | . . 8 3 . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . 7 6 4 . . . . . . X . X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . 1 . 2 . . . O O X X O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . X . O . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

and so does this
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[go]$$Wcm
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . X . . X X . O O X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . O . O . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X X . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X 6 B . . . . O . O X . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . 3 7 8 . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . 5 4 . . . . . . X . X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . 1 . 2 . . . O O X X O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . X . O . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


But this looks a bit better again -
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[go]$$Wcm
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . X . . X X . O O X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . O . O . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X X . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . 9 8 . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X 7 B . . . . O . O X . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . 3 5 6 . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . 4 . . . . . . X . X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . 1 . 2 . . . O O X X O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . X . O . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

After this, black no longer has good prospects for expanding towards the top left corner, but on the other hand, the white group on the lower middle becomes a bit weak :(

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[go]$$Wcm
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . X . . X X . O O X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . O . O . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X X . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . B . . . . O . O X . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . 3 . . . . . . . . X . X O O O . . |
$$ | . . 2 . 1 . . . . O O X X O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . X . O . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I wonder if something like this would actually work well enough for now...

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[go]$$Wcm Move 77, prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . X . . X X . O O X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . O . O . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X X . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , X . . . . O . O X . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O O O . . |
$$ | . . B . O . . . . O O X X O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . X . O . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


My opponent is playing like he is way ahead. Perhaps I should revisit my counting, or the status of the corner ;) In any event, I don't think this is deep enough -- if my counting was correct. However, if my counting is incorrect and white is way ahead, this is an excellent approach.

This allows me to double the amount of points I count this side, and attack the white stone. The center has two areas to push on, and C13 is still a large move for black.

I'm not sure where white will go next. Maybe attach to my stone?

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[go]$$Wcm Move 78, prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . X . . X X . O O X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . O . O . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X X . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . W . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , X . . . . O . O X . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O O O . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . O O X X O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . X . O . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


OK. First this big point, then I can try reducing the side a bit more, or attacking the top group. Black has initiative again, let's see how he uses it.

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[go]$$Wcm Move 79, prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . X . . X X . O O X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . O . O . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X X . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , X . . . . O . O X . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O O O . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . O O X X O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . B . , . X . O . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think my opponent just nabbed the last big point. So I guess
the opening is finished :)

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[go]$$cm Move 79, prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . X . . X X . O O X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . O . O . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X X . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , X . . . . O . O X . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O O O . . |
$$ | . . X . O . a . . O O X X O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 4 . O O X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . 2 1 . , . X . O . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . X 8 O 3 . O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . 6 5 7 . 9 . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


which doesn't seem so nice for black

so maybe

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[go]$$cm Move 79, prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . X . . X X . O O X . |
$$ | . . . , . . . X . , . . O . O . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X X . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . . O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O . O . X X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , X . . . . O . O X . . , . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X O O O . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . O O X X O . O . O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 5 . . . X O O . O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . 4 3 . O O X X . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X , . . 2 1 . , . X . O . O . X . |
$$ | . . . . X . O . . O . X . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I chose here instead of point 'a' because I don't think I can contain
the white stone easily. And it becomes an all or nothing scenario.

Doing this, especially option two, should allow me to abandon the
stones and use them from the outside if needed. Or I could keep
extending my group and white needs to think about connecting.

Plus it just feels unexpected, and not completely stupid -- maybe just a little ;)

I think gain white got on the side and my gain on the side keep the
score roughly the
same as the last time I counted.

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