70. Suji (14k) vs. SinK (17k)

[SinK]

re:Chew Terr's question.

Nothing too complicated.

I've read Janice Kim's series of books which basically just say corners-sides-approach-invade and just I've started "In the Beginning". I hate to make a move that I know is correct just because I know it is correct I like to understand why making that move is correct and right now "In the Beginning is only half way through explaining the more detailed stuff so simply thinking "this move follows standard opening procedure" doesn't sit well with me and I try to over think it without having the tools to do it (even if it were necessary, which I suspect most of the time it isn't).

For the rest of the opening I'm going to make decisions based on directly reading out situations and make any strategic (as opposed to tactical decisions) based more on what feels or looks right. I'll allow the commentators to point out where my intuition is failing me.

[Suji]

The hide tags are bugging me. I can't wait to read them at the end of the game, just to see what everyone is saying. Unfortunately, for me, the end of the game is a long way off. Oh, well, I'm just going to focus playing my best, because I expect SinK to give me his best.

Okay, now for my move.

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Okay, there were two trains of thought that I had with this move. Tenuki or fight.

Reasons for Tenuki:
1. Maybe my last move was a mistake, and to avoid any unnecessary losses in this area make a move in another area of the board.
2. I don't like pincers.
3. I'm scared.
4. I could leave some aji in this area of the board, and come back to it later in the game. The problem with this is that his pincer was an aggressive move, and that I'd probably lose the stone before I could activate the aji. If I could even activate the aji, that is.
5. What my emotions are telling me.

Reasons for fighting:
1. My head says that I can come out of this fight with a slight disadvantage. I'll accept a disadvantage at this point since I might have made an inferior move, however channeling my inner Magicwand says that I have to be consistent.
2. I'm going to learn a lot by what he does next. I've never approached a shimari this close before. I'm expecting him to play something like this.

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3. There were a few moves that I looked at and I didn't like the tenuki options. I didn't look at any of them in depth, but none looked promising. I, also, think that I can live. I can't prove that, but it seems right.

The moves that I looked at were:

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[go]$$Wc Move 8 possibilities...
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I can't go through the variations that I thought of last night since I'm typing this up between classes. I might post some variations after class, but I have some homework that I've got to do as well.

I'm going to follow my head and not my emotions for the rest of the game, and in chess I've found that when I play using my head instead of my emotions, I play better. SinK played that well, but I'm not going to let my emotions get in the way again. (Or, so I think.)

[SinK]

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[go]$$Bc Move 9
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Seems like the obvious continuation. And in the absence of anything particularly urgent it seems like a good way to keep the initiative and build some influence.

[daniel_the_smith]

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Please don't play that. It hurts me. It'd be one thing if you got eyes after it, but you don't. 2 @ 3 or 2 @ 4 look better but best is probably just jump again.

[Aphelion]

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Please don't play that. It hurts me. It'd be one thing if you got eyes after it, but you don't. 2 @ 3 or 2 @ 4 look better but best is probably just jump again.

I remember ddks often don't understand that just because they can add more stones to a group doesn't make it stronger, or that just because a move is sente doesn't mean its free.

[Numsgil]

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[go]$$Bc Analysis
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Please don't play that. It hurts me. It'd be one thing if you got eyes after it, but you don't. 2 @ 3 or 2 @ 4 look better but best is probably just jump again.

I think the shape white has in his diagram is called the "table". At the risk of asking a stupid question, assuming the sequence plays out as he thinks, isn't white getting good shape, with strong eye potential? It's not what I'd play but I don't see how you can say it doesn't help white build eye shape.

Especially with DDK, this below seems the "obvious" line of play (ie: not the best, but the one that feels good and is easy to see/read). If the continuation is like this, white clearly is building solid eye shape:

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[Chew Terr]

Numsgil:

It's a question of what he gets for it. With the table shape, white would get half an eye. However, black's corner would become bulletproof, and he would even get sente to attack white.

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First thing, sente would let black do something like this, which is huge, especially with the top right stone being his. More importantly, however, if white simply jumped up, he would still have opportunity later to try to do mean and nasty things on the corner, like maybe... Q2? You're big on Sector Fights, right? Well, this is one of those situations where Sector Fights says 'run, live, or sacrifice, but only choose one'. White can't live here (and loses aji if he tries), so he should select between living or sacrificing. DtS, by all means correct anything mistaken that I've said here.

[Suji]

Homework done and turned in, so I'm going to make my next move.

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[go]$$Bc Move 10
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Okay, so he did exactly what I thought he was going to do. I ran through some of the variations again last night, and I'm going to go through with this.

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[go]$$Wc Analysis
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One of the variations that I looked at. I would have accepted this result, however, I don't like the fact that he gets fifth line territory.

So, I tried to find something better (at least to me).

$$Wc What I believe is slightly better...For me.
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[go]$$Wc What I believe is slightly better...For me.
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This gets rid of the fifth line territory that he gets, but my group is kinda floating into the center.

Don't get me wrong, Black still has the advantage. However, I think that I will be able to survive. I just have to wait for him to make a mistake that I can exploit later.

The second diagram is the one that I'm aiming for, I can play underneath and expand up when I have to. All in all, I think that I have more options in the second diagram than first.

[SinK]

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[go]$$Bc Move 11
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I don't think my corner is in any real danger and his move doesn't give him much of a base either. I don't think I have any urgent moves here so I guess I should look for a big move.

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a-e are the candidate moves. I don't like c simply because it's gote and e practically forces him to play at a which I don't want. I think a is preferable from what is left mostly on the grounds that he will have to respond but with the back-up of the stones I will probably be walk away from the fight with a move in hand to play at c or d depending on the way the board looks. I am slightly nervous about him invading at b or y but thanks to my shimari I can sacrifice some area on the right to gain some profit on the left around his as of yet unsettled corners.

So a it is.

[kex]

I am slightly nervous about him invading at b or y but thanks to my shimari I can sacrifice some area on the right to gain some profit on the left around his as of yet unsettled corners.

This sounds like a misconception. The right side is not your area, so he cannot invade it, nor sacrifice it. The side is so wide one can freely split it and make a two-space extension on either direction, so it is perfectly safe to enter the side.

On the other hand - making a white group on that side would be an error at this point, as the three white stones near your corner are not yet stable.

[Suji]

I am going to make my move later today.

Not for my opponent:

I believe my opponent has made an inaccurate move. I'm on my itouch now, so i can't go into much detail, but in my thoughts explaining my move I will attempt to explain why I think it's a mistake.

[Numsgil]

Numsgil:

It's a question of what he gets for it. With the table shape, white would get half an eye. However, black's corner would become bulletproof, and he would even get sente to attack white.

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[go]$$Bc Analysis
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First thing, sente would let black do something like this, which is huge, especially with the top right stone being his. More importantly, however, if white simply jumped up, he would still have opportunity later to try to do mean and nasty things on the corner, like maybe... Q2? You're big on Sector Fights, right? Well, this is one of those situations where Sector Fights says 'run, live, or sacrifice, but only choose one'. White can't live here (and loses aji if he tries), so he should select between living or sacrificing. DtS, by all means correct anything mistaken that I've said here.

Yep, there are all sorts of issues with this. And definitely run before trying to make life, if you want to keep the stones. Or I think that's the rule of thumb. It's been a while since I dug in to it. I was just commenting that it does work towards building eye space, so white's not totally off base here.

[Suji]

Okay, Starcraft 2 is evil, as it took last weekend away, hence no move.

Before SinK kills me for failure to move, here it is.

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[go]$$Bc Move 12
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Okay, I won't bother with variations, first of all. This move, as I see it turns the bottom into a bloodbath. Yes, I'm being aggressive here, but I think that I can pull this off.

$$Bc Couple of reasons why.
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At all of the letter points I can force moves IF I have to and desire to do so. The fact that he didn't respond to my last move tells me that he thinks that his corner isn't in danger. I have to fight to win, thanks to my approaching his shimari, but my group there isn't really in any danger due to both d's being miai. I, can live near the bottom or the center with that group, so I'm not worried about it.

Let's hope that he takes the challenge and jumps one space above his lone stone in the lower left, then we'll have an even more interesting game.

[judicata]

IMO, W should just run. This way, he could end up with 3 weak groups, leaving black the option to jump into the corner later. I wonder if B will take the one point jump.

[Aphelion]

Its going to be a bloodbath, but if Black handles this right only White blood will be spilled. A lot of it.