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Offline Shaddy
 Post subject: Re: 66. Shaddy(1d) vs. Chew Terr(5k)
Post #201 Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 5:35 pm 
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[go]$$Bc Captures: B+1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O X . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X . O X X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . . . W O O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . X . . . O O O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . |
$$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . |
$$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . |
$$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . |
$$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . |
$$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O |
$$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . |
$$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


It makes miai of cutting my stones off and connecting to your own stones. I don't like that, I'm short on territory to begin with.
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Offline Chew Terr
 Post subject: Re: 66. Shaddy(1d) vs. Chew Terr(5k)
Post #202 Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:03 am 
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[go]$$Bc Captures: B+1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O X . . B . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X . O X X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . . . O O O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . X . . . O O O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . |
$$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . |
$$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . |
$$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . |
$$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . |
$$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O |
$$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . |
$$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Yes, Admiral Ackbar, we KNOW there is a trap here. (Good move, by the way, Shaddy).
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[go]$$Bc what MHO wants
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O X . . 4 . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X . O X X X 2 . . 3 . . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . . 1 W O O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . X . . . O O O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . |
$$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . |
$$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . |
$$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . |
$$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . |
$$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O |
$$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . |
$$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

He can cut, and threaten to kill.
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[go]$$Bc What I would like
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . 8 . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O X . 9 . . O 3 6 7 . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X . O X X X 2 4 5 . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . . 1 W O O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . X . . . O O O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . |
$$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . |
$$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . |
$$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . |
$$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . |
$$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O |
$$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . |
$$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I can try to be tricky and still connect?
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[go]$$Bc What I would get
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O X . 4 . . O 3 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X . O X X X 2 5 . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . . 1 W O O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . X . . 6 O O O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . |
$$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . |
$$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . |
$$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . |
$$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . |
$$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O |
$$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . |
$$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

But white can (and would) shut me down, and take the whole thing. (What a jerk!) So, let's look further back, to find alternatives.

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[go]$$Bc Captures: B+1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . . . , O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O X . 1 4 . O 3 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X . O X X X 2 5 . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . . . W O O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . X . . . O O O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . |
$$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . |
$$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . |
$$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . |
$$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . |
$$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O |
$$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . |
$$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

No good.
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[go]$$Bc Captures: B+1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . . . 3 O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O X . 2 1 . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X . O X X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . . 4 W O O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . X . . . O O O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . |
$$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . |
$$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . |
$$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . |
$$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . |
$$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O |
$$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . |
$$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I hate to say it, but this is the best I see myself getting.

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Offline topazg
 Post subject: Re: 66. Shaddy(1d) vs. Chew Terr(5k)
Post #203 Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:09 am 
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Isn't White about 20 points ahead now? Am I missing something ?
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Offline Kirby
 Post subject: Re: 66. Shaddy(1d) vs. Chew Terr(5k)
Post #204 Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:13 am 
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I'd keep trying as black on this board.

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Offline Chew Terr
 Post subject: Re: 66. Shaddy(1d) vs. Chew Terr(5k)
Post #205 Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:16 am 
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topazg wrote:
Isn't White about 20 points ahead now? Am I missing something ?


Yeah, that's what I was afraid of. I wanted to finish this fight, then count, since I couldn't tell for sure what I would get out of the fight. Afterwards, I was going to count and decide whether or not to resign. Since it seems like I won't be able to connect west, I'll give a specific count later today, but first I really need to get some work done.

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Offline Chew Terr
 Post subject: Re: 66. Shaddy(1d) vs. Chew Terr(5k)
Post #206 Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:56 am 
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[go]$$Bc Captures: B+1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . X O O . . O O X . s i x t y . . . |
$$ | . , X X O O . O X . . f o u r . . . . |
$$ | t e n X O X . O X X . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . . O X O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | X X X O X O X . O B . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | B O X O O O X . O X X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | O X O O . X . . O O O O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . O o n e . . . X . . . O O O X X . . |
$$ | . . h u n d r e d . X X . . X O X X . |
$$ | . X t w e l v e . O O O O O O O O X . |
$$ | O . . . . . O . . O X X X X O O O X . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . O O X r . X O X X . . |
$$ | O . O . . . O O X . X X X O j O X X X |
$$ | X O O . . . O X X X X O X O O O O X O |
$$ | . X O O . O X X X O O O O X O O X X O |
$$ | X . X O . X O O X q O X O X O X X X O |
$$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O O |
$$ | O X X O X O O O X s i x X O O O O X j |
$$ | . X O . . O X X X . . X X X X O . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

q=15 points
r=2

j=8

B: 10+64+15+2+6=97
W: 120

Topazg, you're right, white's beating me by 20, by my best estimation. Kirby, do you have any suggestions for anywhere I could try to dig some additional points? I figure my opponent won't let me connect anything, and trying to live inside would be ridiculous.

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Offline Kirby
 Post subject: Re: 66. Shaddy(1d) vs. Chew Terr(5k)
Post #207 Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 9:10 am 
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I think white is ahead, but you don't know how your opponent will react to what you are doing right now (eg. will he give up those stones).

The middle area seems kind of thin, so I wonder if there's something around there.

Black is probably not in good shape to win, but I would at least finish what you are doing before resigning. Maybe I just don't resign as soon as some people do.

There's also the fact that this is supposed to be a game for learning. So I guess you can decide if you are still learning stuff.

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Offline topazg
 Post subject: Re: 66. Shaddy(1d) vs. Chew Terr(5k)
Post #208 Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 10:08 am 
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I know what I'd try that would be worth ~7 or 8 points, that keeps things close enough for me ;)
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Offline Chew Terr
 Post subject: Re: 66. Shaddy(1d) vs. Chew Terr(5k)
Post #209 Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 10:13 am 
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And I did forget reverse komi. I don't think it's possible to come back, but I'd like to play a bit longer for endgame practice, if that's okay with you, Shaddy? After the game, I'll probably try to make an SGF like I did with Fwiffo.

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Offline Kirby
 Post subject: Re: 66. Shaddy(1d) vs. Chew Terr(5k)
Post #210 Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 10:16 am 
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As a sidenote, I have to say that I love Shaddy's avatar. It cracks me up every time I see it. I almost want to steal it, but that wouldn't be cool...

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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: 66. Shaddy(1d) vs. Chew Terr(5k)
Post #211 Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 2:15 pm 
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chew:
you had many chance to win.
it wasnt too hard to save all of your stone in the middle. you played it wrong.
and also trying to live inside was not ridiculous.

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Offline Chew Terr
 Post subject: Re: 66. Shaddy(1d) vs. Chew Terr(5k)
Post #212 Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 2:18 pm 
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Magicwand wrote:
chew:
you had many chance to win.
it wasnt too hard to save all of your stone in the middle. you played it wrong.
and also trying to live inside was not ridiculous.


Would you mind showing me what I should have played at this point, a few pages of posts ago?
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[go]$$Bc Captures: B+1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . . . , W . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X X . |
$$ | . X . O . . . X . O . . O O O O O X . |
$$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . |
$$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . |
$$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . |
$$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O |
$$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . |
$$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I think that my prior move should have been higher, so it would be easier to connect to, but I feel like I still should have been able to connect or live.

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Offline Shaddy
 Post subject: Re: 66. Shaddy(1d) vs. Chew Terr(5k)
Post #213 Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 2:34 pm 
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[go]$$Bc Captures: B+1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O . . 4 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . O . 3 . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . . 2 1 O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O X . W B . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X . O X X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . . . O O O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . X . . . O O O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . |
$$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . |
$$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . |
$$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . |
$$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . |
$$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O |
$$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . |
$$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: 66. Shaddy(1d) vs. Chew Terr(5k)
Post #214 Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 2:47 pm 
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chew: there are too many aji in the middle. it wasnt too hard to live.

one example:
a and b exchange was not good. you are killing your aji.
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[go]$$Bc Captures: B+1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . O . . . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . . . , W . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O X . . . . 2 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X . . . 1 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . . . . . . 5 . X . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 3 a . . X O X X . |
$$ | . X . O . . . X . O 4 b O O O O O X . |
$$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . |
$$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . |
$$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . |
$$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O |
$$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . |
$$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Chew Terr
 Post subject: Re: 66. Shaddy(1d) vs. Chew Terr(5k)
Post #215 Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 2:54 pm 
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[go]$$Bc Captures: B+1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . O . X . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . . O X O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O X . O X . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X . O X X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . . B O O O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . X . . . O O O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . |
$$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . |
$$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . |
$$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . |
$$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . |
$$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O |
$$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . |
$$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Okay, this nets 0 points, but it's sente and gives me a bit better aji in the middle for later.

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[go]$$Bc Captures: B+1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O . . O 5 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . O 3 X . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . 4 O X O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O X . O X . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X . O X X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . . 1 O O O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . X . . 2 O O O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . |
$$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . |
$$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . |
$$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . |
$$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . |
$$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O |
$$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . |
$$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Up to 5 at least, it's minor points with major sente, hopefully shutting down some aji in my shapes while leaving most of that in my opponent's.

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Offline Shaddy
 Post subject: Re: 66. Shaddy(1d) vs. Chew Terr(5k)
Post #216 Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 3:59 pm 
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[go]$$Bc Captures: B+1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O . W O X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . O X X . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . O O X O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O X . O X . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O O X . O X X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . . X O O O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . X . . O O O O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . |
$$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . |
$$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . |
$$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . |
$$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . |
$$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O |
$$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . |
$$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Offline Chew Terr
 Post subject: Re: 66. Shaddy(1d) vs. Chew Terr(5k)
Post #217 Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 2:32 pm 
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[go]$$Bc Captures: B+1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O . O O X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . O X X . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . O O X O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O X . O X . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | B . X O O O X . O X X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . . X O O O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . X . . O O O O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . |
$$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . |
$$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . |
$$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . |
$$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . |
$$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O |
$$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . |
$$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Sorry for the delay, holiday weekend plus broken computer. I hate to say it, but I question the size of my opponent's last move, though perhaps he saw something I'm missing. I really wanted to exploit some sente in the middle. However, my eyes kept coming back to this move. Not only is it a fair few points (which I had counted for my opponent, in my count, I was surprised to read that it was reasonably sente. If I'm not mistaken, the theatened A12 seems to lead to either a game-breakin ko (which may not actually be a ko, in my favor) or a few points reduction in sente. Let's do it, endgame is fun.

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Offline Shaddy
 Post subject: Re: 66. Shaddy(1d) vs. Chew Terr(5k)
Post #218 Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 3:49 pm 
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[go]$$Bc Captures: B+1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O . O O X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . O X X . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . O O X O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O X . O X . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X O O O X . O X X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . . X O O O X X X O . . . |
$$ | W O . . . . . . X . . O O O O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . |
$$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . |
$$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . |
$$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . |
$$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . |
$$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O |
$$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . |
$$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I hallucinated. that was silly of me, heh
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Offline Chew Terr
 Post subject: Re: 66. Shaddy(1d) vs. Chew Terr(5k)
Post #219 Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 4:36 pm 
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[go]$$Bc Captures: B+1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O . O O X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . O X X . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . O O X O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O X . O X . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X O O O X . O X X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . . X O O O X X X O . . . |
$$ | O O . . . . . . X . . O O O O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . |
$$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . |
$$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . |
$$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . |
$$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . |
$$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O |
$$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . |
$$ | O X X O X O . O X . O . X O O O O X . |
$$ | . X O . . . . B . . . X . X . . . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Okay, that first sente move was good. Time tokeep thissente train a-rolling. keep reading trying to find some godsend in the middle, but Idon't see anything better than a few points in sente. So what I'll try to do is just play for endgame instead of trying for a coup, and see what I can get. While the middle seems to be where the action is, this seems sente. If my opponent ignores to defend (likely in the middle) then I get to do some nasty things in response (in addition to the capture, which would be free). After this, I'll probably push a bit in the middle, then count again.

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Offline Shaddy
 Post subject: Re: 66. Shaddy(1d) vs. Chew Terr(5k)
Post #220 Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 5:15 pm 
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[go]$$Bc Captures: B+1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O . O O X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . O X X . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . X O X . O O X O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O X . O X . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . X O O O X . O X X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . . X O O O X X X O . . . |
$$ | O O . . . . . . X . . O O O O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . X O X X . |
$$ | . X . O . . . X . O O O O O O O O X . |
$$ | O . . . . . O . . . . X X X O . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . O X . . X O X X . . |
$$ | O . O . . . . O . . X X X O . O X . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . X X X O X O O O O X . |
$$ | . X O O . O . . X O O O O X O O X X . |
$$ | X . X O . X O O X , O X O X O X X X O |
$$ | O O X O . . O X X X X X X X O X O O . |
$$ | O X X O X O W O X . O . X O O O O X . |
$$ | . X O . . . . X . . . X . X . . . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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