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Actually, in my last diagram, maybe :b3: should be at N19.
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I guess I will cut off his stone for now.
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Hmm.... Leave a weak group and tenuki, or safely solidify my group...?

My style fits the former option, but I wonder what's best...
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Meh, my group will be fine :-p
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Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby: Four Stones Revisited

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IIRC, Kirby's last move is a mistake, but the punishment leaves his stones working together well, so maybe it's ok?

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Where the heck is the biggest move???
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Kirby wrote:
Where the heck is the biggest move???


d17 is big and it limits the flexibility of white's scattered stones, making it hard for them to accomplish much
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To be honest, I really don't know what is best right now. The marked stones look kind of awkward, though, so I'm trying to fix that:

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I can't think of a great way to escape with M4 right now, so I'm going to hold off for a bit...
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I'm kind of glad for this. I feel like he fixes my shape here.
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