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Offline Kirby
 Post subject: Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby: Four Stones Revisited
Post #101 Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:45 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm51 Has captured: B - 1, W - 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O . O X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . O . O X . . X X O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O X . X . . X O 0 X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . O . . X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . O , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Trigger:
If you respond to the threat, I will take the ko.

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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby: Four Stones Revisited
Post #102 Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:02 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm61 Has captured: B - 2, W - 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O . O X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . X . . X X O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O X . X . . X O X X X . . |
$$ | . . 3 . . O . . . . . . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . O . . X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . O , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
is he going to answer this threat?

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Offline Kirby
 Post subject: Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby: Four Stones Revisited
Post #103 Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:45 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm61 Has captured: B - 2, W - 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O . O X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . O X 4 X . . X X O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O X . X . . X O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . O . . X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . O , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


He has more threats than me. In fact, I'm not sure I have a threat he would respond to after this. I'm just going to take this ko. My group is then safe, so I can move on to bigger things.

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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby: Four Stones Revisited
Post #104 Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:31 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm61 Has captured: B - 2, W - 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O . O X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X X . . X X O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O X . X . . X O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O 5 . O . . . . . . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . O . . X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . O , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Kirby
 Post subject: Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby: Four Stones Revisited
Post #105 Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:03 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm61 Has captured: B - 2, W - 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O . O X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X X . . X X O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O X . X . . X O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . O . . X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 6 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . O , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


First thought that came to mind:
Quote:
Can I live in the top left?


Second thought that came to mind:
Quote:
Maybe, maybe not. But is that the biggest area on the board?


Third thought that came to mind:
Quote:
Hmmm….
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[go]$$Wcm61
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O . O X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X X . . X X O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O X . X . . X O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . W . . X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . W W X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . O , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



Fourth thought that came to mind:

Quote:
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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby: Four Stones Revisited
Post #106 Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 2:22 am 
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[go]$$Wcm61 Has captured: B - 2, W - 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O . O X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X X . . X X O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O X . X . . X O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . O . . X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . O , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
i like this
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[go]$$Wcm61 Has captured: B - 2, W - 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O . O X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X X . . X X O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O X . X . . X O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . O . . X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 6 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 7 . 9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . . 8 X . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . O , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

i expect him to play this. i dont mind this either.
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[go]$$Wcm61 Has captured: B - 2, W - 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O . O X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X X . . X X O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O X . X . . X O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . O . . X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 6 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 8 , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . . 9 X . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . O , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby: Four Stones Revisited
Post #107 Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 5:38 am 
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some comment about 66 :
it is a good move to attack my stone. but is it really necessary at this moment?
my point is that my stones are very light and not easily attacked.
even if he waste another move on my group... i still have aji left over.
my thought on his attack is premature. korean professionals say many times "the group is not easily attacked" because it is light and have many aji.

i am looking to play 'a' but i dont have time to play now. i hate that one stone aji and if i can play 'a' this will solidify below and i will get the thorn out of my finger.

can he live on upper left corner? :
i dont care if he live in upper left corner. it will be gote and he will give me more thickness and i will be happy.

if i answer to the move 66 then i am playing in black's flow. i can not win playing in his flow. i will change that by creating weakgroup on left side and gain thickness out of it and make move "66" a bad move.

i will try to comment on this game more often.
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[go]$$Wcm61 Has captured: B - 2, W - 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O . O X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X X . . X X O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O X . X . . X O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . O . . X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 6 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . O , a X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Kirby
 Post subject: Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby: Four Stones Revisited
Post #108 Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 9:32 am 
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Hard decision...

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Post #109 Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 9:44 am 
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[go]$$Wcm61 Has captured: B - 2, W - 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O . O X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X X . . X X O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O X . X . . X O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . O . . X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 8 , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . O , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


My stone is looking a bit lonely, I think. This is a sidetrack from my original attack that I played with my last move, but I guess I have to endure it for now.

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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby: Four Stones Revisited
Post #110 Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:52 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm61 Has captured: B - 2, W - 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O . O X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X X . . X X O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O X . X . . X O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . O . . X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . 9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . O , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
i will make his two stone uncomfortable. and try to find a series of moves that connect with the center.

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Post #111 Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 1:10 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm61 Has captured: B - 2, W - 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O . O X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X X . . X X O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O X . X . . X O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . O . . X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , 0 . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . O , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I should be safe with my three stones in the bottom left. Some points that I'm thinking about:
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[go]$$Wcm61 Has captured: B - 2, W - 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O . O X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X X . . X X O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X a . O X . X . . X O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . O . . X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . c . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , 0 . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . 9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . O , . X b . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


The places I've marked, "a" through "c" are not necessarily the exact spots I will play. I'm just thinking of these areas of the board.

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Offline Magicwand
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Post #112 Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 1:13 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm71 Has captured: B - 2, W - 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O . O X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X X . . X X O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O X . X . . X O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . O . . X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , X . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . O , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
i can not give him sente. i will nullify his lower left in sente.

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Post #113 Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 1:24 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm71 Has captured: B - 2, W - 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O . O X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X X . . X X O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O X . X . . X O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . O . . X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , X . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . O , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O 2 . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This will make the bottom side uninteresting, which is good for me, because it's the area where white currently seems to have potential, if you don't count the top left.

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Post #114 Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 1:26 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm71 Has captured: B - 2, W - 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O . O X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X X . . X X O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O X . X . . X O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . O . . X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , X . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . 3 X . O . . O , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #115 Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 1:32 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm71 Has captured: B - 2, W - 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O . O X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X X . . X X O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O X . X . . X O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . O . . X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , X . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . . 4 X . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O . . O , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think it's biggest to keep him separated here...

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Post #116 Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 2:49 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm71 Has captured: B - 2, W - 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O . O X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X X . . X X O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O X . X . . X O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . O . . X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , X . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 6 . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . 5 X X . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | 7 . O X . . . . . . . O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O . . O , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #117 Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 3:12 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm71 Has captured: B - 2, W - 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O . O X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X X . . X X O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O X . X . . X O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . O . . X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , X . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X 8 . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | O . O X . . . . . . . O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O . . O , . X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I guess I should connect... I wonder if he'll decend with B8...

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Post #118 Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 3:20 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm71 Has captured: B - 2, W - 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X O . O X O O . O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X X . . X X O O O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . O X . X . . X O X X X . . |
$$ | . . O O . O . . . . . . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . O . . X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X , X . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . |
$$ | O . O X . . . . . . . O . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O . . O , 9 X . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #119 Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 3:31 pm 
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Magicwand:
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some comment about 66 :
it is a good move to attack my stone. but is it really necessary at this moment?
my point is that my stones are very light and not easily attacked.
even if he waste another move on my group... i still have aji left over.
my thought on his attack is premature. korean professionals say many times "the group is not easily attacked" because it is light and have many aji.

i am looking to play 'a' but i dont have time to play now. i hate that one stone aji and if i can play 'a' this will solidify below and i will get the thorn out of my finger.

Thanks for your comments. Observing your games is a very nice way to learn about aji. a would not have looked like such an important point to me.
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Post #120 Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 3:44 pm 
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dfan wrote:
Magicwand:
Magicwand wrote:
some comment about 66 :
it is a good move to attack my stone. but is it really necessary at this moment?
my point is that my stones are very light and not easily attacked.
even if he waste another move on my group... i still have aji left over.
my thought on his attack is premature. korean professionals say many times "the group is not easily attacked" because it is light and have many aji.

i am looking to play 'a' but i dont have time to play now. i hate that one stone aji and if i can play 'a' this will solidify below and i will get the thorn out of my finger.

Thanks for your comments. Observing your games is a very nice way to learn about aji. a would not have looked like such an important point to me.


thank you for enjoying my game.

to observers:

what i played in lower left corner is horrorable.
i have lost points on that corner.
i think i didnt control my emotion and went after cash and gave him too much influence :(
but i was pretty much forced to play this way because i am already behind toomuch.

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