74. Laman (1d) vs. emeraldemon (3k)

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Re: 74. Laman (1d) vs. emeraldemon (3k)

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white has not gained any points sofar.. actually i think he lost point by playing loosely.
3 stone handycap seems toomuch for laman to overcome..
"The more we think we know about
The greater the unknown"

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Re: 74. Laman (1d) vs. emeraldemon (3k)

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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #24
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$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . B . . . |
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$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Well, I'm not real happy with that exchange, but I feel like my stones have a decent chance to escape. The white stones are pretty settled, I can't hassle them too much. But the top is reduced and I have some territory on both sides. This move extends out and also gives me a direction to run towards, if I need it.

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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #24
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$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . W . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . 4 . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . 1 . . . |
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$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: 74. Laman (1d) vs. emeraldemon (3k)

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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #26
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$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . W . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

it seems that black changed his mind and is not going to run with his upper group. good for him. now it again feels much more like handicap game

i could invest another move to the top, but black group still wouldn't be caught properly and even if i killed all those 4 stones, i would get something like 50 points which is not worth the rest of the board. so i will continue at the top only after black will play there first

my kakari is in my opinion the biggest play at the board. i want to play this and then follow with slides to the corners:
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[go]$$Bcm1 Diagram1
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$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 4 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . W . . . O . . . 2 . . . . . |
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i am prepared for the case that black would decide to counter my plans (3 at a and 4 at 3 also possible):
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[go]$$Bcm1 Diagram2
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$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 2 . a . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . 4 , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . W . 1 . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

this way thing get most complicated, but i believe still ok:
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[go]$$Bcm1 Diagram3
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 4 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . W . 3 . O . . . 2 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Spilling gasoline feels good.

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Re: 74. Laman (1d) vs. emeraldemon (3k)

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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #27
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$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . B . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


High to hopefully match the 3rd line extension I get later :)
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #28
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$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O . . . W . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #28
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #28
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O . . . W . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #28
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . 3 O . . . O . . . W . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #30
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$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . W . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

i slightly changed my plan, K5 will follow next. i don't want black to enclose his corner, so i slide immediately.

as i see it now, i probably haven't chosen the best way to start handicap game, i should have been more active. we will see, what we will get
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #31
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . B . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #30
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . 4 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 3 X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . 2 . . O . . . O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . W . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: 74. Laman (1d) vs. emeraldemon (3k)

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EmDem:
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #28
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Why the long knight's?
Someday I want to be strong enough to earn KGS[-].
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Re: 74. Laman (1d) vs. emeraldemon (3k)

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Chew Terr wrote:EmDem:
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #28
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Why the long knight's?


Partly for symmetry, I guess. It seems to claim the right side in a stronger way. If W plays keima under:
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[go]$$Wcm1 Move #28
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O . . . O . . 2 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think that shape is quite good for black (although maybe 4th line looks a bit nicer now. If W invades:

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[go]$$Wcm1 Move #28
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X 3 . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O . 0 . O 8 2 1 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 5 7 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think black can be happy with this also.
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Re: 74. Laman (1d) vs. emeraldemon (3k)

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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #32
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . W . . O . . . O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

i didn't like black's move at first sight, but after some thinking i am not so sure if it is advantageous or disadvantageous. in terms of territory it looks comparable, because i get sansan but C8 invasion is now harder. i improve my position on the lower side (it is way less urgent to add K5 or anything else) and on the other hand black puts more pressure on my 7+1 stones above, so it is not so clear who will have advantage in fight on the upper side. i was tempted to play there, perhaps K12, still not sure which area is better.

i would be very interested in someone other's opinion on this position
Spilling gasoline feels good.

I might be wrong, but probably not.
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Re: 74. Laman (1d) vs. emeraldemon (3k)

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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #33
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . B X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I had a long post written, but I accidentally deleted it :cry:
Well, this is the best move.
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Re: 74. Laman (1d) vs. emeraldemon (3k)

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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #34
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . W . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

lower side is pretty much settled, now this should be the most severe attack at black's upper group (however my main intension is to stabilize my own left group, preferably in sente). next i would like to get slide Q18 and invasion of C8. i am not yet decided about the lower right corner, but again it seems slide Q2 is the best. in future i could also invade at R12

as for my actual move, my first idea was K12, as i already mentioned, but i don't like the exchange of 1-2, after which black is connected and already out of my reach:
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[go]$$Bcm1 Diagram1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . 3 . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . 2 W . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Spilling gasoline feels good.

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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #35
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . B . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #34
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . 3 X 6 W . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . 7 2 4 5 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . 1 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #34
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . 5 7 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X 2 6 X . W . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . 4 3 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . 1 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #36
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . W . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
hmm, i was aiming exactly for this black shape, hoping i would be able to cut it somehow, but as I am reading it (and also trying variations offline) now, i cannot find a really good way to do it.

in the end i chose this, presumably the best of all bad possibilities. following continuation looks pretty satisfying (black can play many slightly other moves, but the result should remain the same):
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[go]$$Bcm1 Diagram1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . 5 4 2 W . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . 6 X . 1 X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . . O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

i considered moves a, b, c, d, but all failed. i can post the variations, if someone want. in most cases those branches lead to me able to attack or capture the two marked stones, and black able to escape to center with his three stones, again greatly weakening my seven stones at the left, while i want the oposite
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[go]$$Bcm1 Diagram2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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Spilling gasoline feels good.

I might be wrong, but probably not.
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