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 Post subject: Re: 74. Laman (1d) vs. emeraldemon (3k)
Post #81 Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 5:31 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #66
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . B X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



same as before


Last edited by emeraldemon on Wed Oct 20, 2010 12:23 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Post #82 Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 10:57 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #68
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . W O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

it is very well possible that i bit of too much (i see it already for some moves, but haven't mention it explicitly), but first, i have no choice now but to continue (or don't i?) and second, diagram 1 will hopefully give me enough opportunities to escape or kill six black stones (not sure if i can kill :))
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[go]$$Bcm1 Diagram 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 4 3 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 1 2 . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . W O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #83 Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:44 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #69
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . B . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Everything is going according to plan...


Last edited by emeraldemon on Wed Oct 20, 2010 12:24 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Post #84 Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 8:43 am 
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I can not see the diagrams from last two posts from Emeraldemon. Is anyone else experiencing similar problems?

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Post #85 Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 8:50 am 
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I can not see the diagrams from last two posts from Emeraldemon. Is anyone else experiencing similar problems?


Yes, he needs to remove trailing spaces from the $ signs in the go diagram code :)

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Post #86 Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:04 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #70
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . W O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

tj86430 wrote:
I can not see the diagrams from last two posts from Emeraldemon. Is anyone else experiencing similar problems?
yes, i also wanted to point it out, but i was writing this post too long, so topazg answered before me

now i tried to play out the sequence to the end and i already thought i got lucky once again, but it is not the case - i fall at least one liberty short...
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[go]$$Bcm1 Diagram 1-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 5 3 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 4 X 2 X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O 6 1 W O O 8 9 . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X 7 O 0 . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Bcm11 Diagram 1-2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X O O O O X 3 . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X X O W 1 . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O 6 5 2 . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . 4 X X X O O O 7 . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

well, it is pretty long and difficult sequence and i can hope black will make a mistake, but i hate relying on a opponent's mistake when i know i should lose. still - i don't think i can let my group die and if i want to rescue it, starting with 1 and 3 can't be bad, i might find a way out of this trouble in the meantime.

so, i am going to play 1 and 3 and then i will have to make final decision what to do next. if i were to lose, it is only because my previous mistakes so it would be fair :)

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Post #87 Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 12:34 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #71
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . B O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Sorry, I'm not sure what happened there. I always copy & paste the diagram from the previous post, I'm not sure how the spaces were inserted.

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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #70
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 9 6 3 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 8 5 4 X 2 X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O 7 1 W O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #88 Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:20 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #72
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X W X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

where's a will, there's a way. i should be able to survive. i haven't analyze all possible sequences, but at least the reasonable-looking ones :). the key move is w 2:

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[go]$$Bcm1 Diagram 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 3 1 . . 5 7 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X W X X 4 6 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X O O O 2 . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . 8 . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Bcm1 Diagram 2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 5 1 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X W X X 4 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X O O O 2 3 6 . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Bcm1 Diagram 3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 5 1 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 4 X W X X 3 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O 6 X O O O 2 7 . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . 8 9 O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . 0 X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

i believe it works but just in case i will surely wait until tommorrow to look at it fresh and make myself sure it is the best move i can find

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Post #89 Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:37 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #72
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . B . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Sorry I haven't commented as much lately, I"ll try to make a somewhat longer post to make up for it. This is my only move here. blocking would be a disaster for me:

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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #72
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 3 1 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 2 X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O 4 X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

At this point no matter how I play I'm short on liberties:

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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #72
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X O O O 1 . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . 4 X X X 2 O 3 . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . 6 7 O O . 5 . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . 8 X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #72
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O O X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . 4 X X X 2 O 1 . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . 3 . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


So I have to extend, and white will take the cut:

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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #72
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 4 1 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 3 2 X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O 5 X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


After that, all kinds of crazy stuff can happen:

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[go]$$Wcm6 Move #72
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , 6 . . 3 . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . 5 4 2 O X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 1 X O X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


It's pretty hard for me to read this all out, I may try some more later.

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Post #90 Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:05 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #74
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X W . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

few moves ago i wanted to write how much easier would it be for me to break the rules and look into black's comments to know if he sees the same sequences as me, but now he has just solved my dilemma. i am still not clearly alive, but i believe i will be able to handle myself, it almost seems that i could even launch a counterattack

note: funny thing came to my mind, maybe black failed to see how bad my situation was and maybe he was worrying about his position as much as i was about mine. will see after the game finishes

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Post #91 Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 5:28 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Black to move
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . a b . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


In this position, what is better, a or b?

b is the standard way of attacking but I think I like a better.

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Post #92 Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:08 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #75
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . B , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think if I can keep my bottom, left & top groups all alive, I actually stand a decent chance of winning.

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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #74
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X 5 7 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . 3 . 4 6 0 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . 1 2 . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X W . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 8 9 X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Probably the way this will go: I will connect to the top left, white will capture my two stones & live, and possibly cut my 3 stones on the left & force them to live small.

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Post #93 Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:53 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #76
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . X W . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

i considered several moves in the area and i like this best, can't explain why. other moves:
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[go]$$Bcm1 Diagram 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . B , a b . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . x . X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

x was not an alternative, i want to play it as kikashi in any case, probably as the next move

possible continuation, this way i would be satisfied:
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[go]$$Bcm1 Diagram 2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . X W . 2 . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

i was worried about what if black will want to catch me, but i should be able to break out by some crazy sequence like this:
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[go]$$Bcm1 Diagram 3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . B 8 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . 3 2 1 9 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . X W 5 4 0 . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O 6 7 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O X B . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

i would be able to capture 1 or one of the two marked black groups. if you are interested, i can elaborate further

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Post #94 Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 9:30 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #77
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . B . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . X O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I do actually think I'm still in this game, in spite of some terrible mistakes earlier.

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Post #95 Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 9:44 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #78
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . X O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . W . X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

black played the most submissive move, could it be that i scared him? at the beginning he seemed to be very brave.

not much to say about my move, only that there is a proverb... "kikashi before you forget". and it should be better than if black played there

note just before submitting: black looks almost surrounded and eyeless. if i will be able to stabilize my center group skillfuly enough, i might get some good profit out of it

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Post #96 Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 11:30 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #78
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . X O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O B X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Obvious move. White can give some trouble on the left now:
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #78
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . X O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . 7 4 6 . . . . X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 3 2 . . O 1 X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 5 . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think I'm ok. Then there's the right:

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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #78
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . 3 4 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X 2 6 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X 7 5 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . X O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O 1 X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I have enough liberties now to make the capturing race favorable to me, So white has to be very careful to play this way. I think more likely he'll just threaten the cut:

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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #78
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X 3 5 7 9 . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . 2 4 6 8 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . X O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O 1 X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I'm pushing from behind, but eventually I link up to the top right & white lives inside.

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Post #97 Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 1:39 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #79
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . X O . W . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

not much to comment, i can think only of this move and possibly L12 for my center group and i believe it is certain i cannot leave it as it stands

i realised my bottom position is cuttable, luckily it does not much harm, as i would be able to conect to top...
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #78
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . X O . W . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O 7 . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X 5 3 4 X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . 1 O 6 . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O 2 . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #98 Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 6:47 am 
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I hope Laman is also studying the aji around the top. I think black can make use of that aji to either break into top or to secure a big center...cut is very severe due to the possible resulting fights. It may be possible that white has too much on his plate at this moment...

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Post #99 Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 1:02 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #81
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . B . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . X O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I spent a really long time trying to decide if I can reinforce the left in sente. I think the short answer is no. I wanted to play like this:

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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #79
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . 3 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . X O . W . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 2 . X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . 1 . O X X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Building the left side in sente. The question is what happens if W blocks on the right instead:

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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #79
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . 2 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . X O . W . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 4 3 . X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . 1 5 O X X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


It's a really complicated fight & I won't bore you with the variations. But In the end I think I can't live unless White splits the left anyway, defeating the whole purpose.

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Post #100 Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 2:38 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #82
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X W . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . X O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O X X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

i feel too sleepy to give many explanations. i play this because i couldn't be very proud of myself if i just went for the two stones below and because i want to believe this move works and because i think i can back up well enough in case it doesn't. see you tomorrow

FlameBlade: thank you, good to see a new comment again (no matter i am not allowed to read it)

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