Prokovich game

Chew Terr · **#441**

Joaz: Yeah, thought I had read an answer to that, but I was wrong. Thanks =)

dfan · **#442**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm97 ACTUAL GAME: Move 97. Points from prisoners: B 2 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X O X X X . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . X , X O . . O O O . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . X O . O . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . | $$ | . O O O O O O O . O . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . X O O X X X X . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . X X X X . . . X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . O X . . . . . . X O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . X X O . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X . . X . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . O . X X O X . . O X . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . O . X X O . X X . O . . | $$ | . . O . . . O . O O X . . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

mitsun · **#443**

Looks like we are well into yose now. B just ignored a W move with a followup worth over 10 points, so either he has something good here, or he just wants to get in a few forcing moves before coming back to block at (a).

I think W has to hane underneath at (2), to maintain connection to the weak upper stone. B can cross-cut to separate the two W groups, but that does not seem to gain anything, as W ends up strong with territory on both sides.

I do not see what B is planning here. If he could somehow manage to make (b) become sente, that would be large. But if it is gote, then nothing around here looks larger than (a).

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$B $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X O X X X . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . X , X O . . O O O . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . X O . O . . . . . . X . . b . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . 6 . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . 4 1 2 . | $$ | . O O O O O O O . O . . . . . . O 3 . | $$ | . X O O X X X X . , . . . . . , 5 . . | $$ | . X X X X . . . X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . O X . . . . . . X O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . X X O . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X . . X . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . O . X X O X . . O X . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . O . X X O . X X . O . . | $$ | . . O . . . O . O O X . . a O O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

dfan · **#444**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm98 ACTUAL GAME: Move 98. Points from prisoners: B 2 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X O X X X . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . X , X O . . O O O . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . X O . O . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . X 1 . | $$ | . O O O O O O O . O . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . X O O X X X X . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . X X X X . . . X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . O X . . . . . . X O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . X X O . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X . . X . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . O . X X O X . . O X . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . O . X X O . X X . O . . | $$ | . . O . . . O . O O X . . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

ethanb · **#445**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm99 My guess $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X O X X X . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . X , X O . . O O O . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . X O . O . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . O 6 . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . 7 . . . . . 5 2 1 . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . 3 X O . | $$ | . O O O O O O O . O . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . X O O X X X X . , . . . . . , . 4 . | $$ | . X X X X . . . X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . O X . . . . . . X O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . X X O . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X . . X . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . O . X X O X . . O X . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . O . X X O . X X . O . . | $$ | . . O . . . O . O O X . . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Something like this, perhaps? Building thickness to attack the group in the center seems like a good idea.

dfan · **#446**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm99 ACTUAL GAME: Move 99. Points from prisoners: B 2 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X O X X X . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . X , X O . . O O O . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . X O . O . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . O O O O O O O . O . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . X O O X X X X . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . X X X X . . . X . . . . . . . 1 . . | $$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . O X . . . . . . X O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . X X O . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X . . X . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . O . X X O X . . O X . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . O . X X O . X X . O . . | $$ | . . O . . . O . O O X . . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Dusk Eagle · **#447**

I love this move, as it's exactly the type of thing I'd miss in a game of mine. White should want to hane on top here, but because of his previous move that is made virtually impossible. Thus, black gets a double-hane shape on white without getting cut.

jts · **#448**

Dusk Eagle, would you say more? Are you predicting one of these if W hanes on top? I don't think I can see the sequence which makes W100 impossible.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm99 Hane on top. Points from prisoners: B 2 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X O X X X . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . X , X O . . O O O . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . X O . O . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . O O O O O O O . O . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . X O O X X X X . , . . . . . 5 3 4 . | $$ | . X X X X . . . X . . . . . . 2 1 6 . | $$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . O X . . . . . . X O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . X X O . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X . . X . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . O . X X O X . . O X . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . O . X X O . X X . O . . | $$ | . . O . . . O . O O X . . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm99 Hane on top. Points from prisoners: B 2 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X O X X X . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . X , X O . . O O O . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . X O . O . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . . 7 . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . X O 9 | $$ | . O O O O O O O . O . . . . . 6 O 5 . | $$ | . X O O X X X X . , . . . . . 4 3 8 . | $$ | . X X X X . . . X . . . . . . 2 1 . . | $$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . O X . . . . . . X O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . X X O . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X . . X . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . O . X X O X . . O X . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . O . X X O . X X . O . . | $$ | . . O . . . O . O O X . . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

(or maybe

at q12 is better?)

Dusk Eagle · **#449**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm1 Points from prisoners: B 2 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X O X X X . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . X , X O . . O O O . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . X O . O . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . O O O O O O O . O . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . X O O X X X X . , . . . . . 5 3 4 . | $$ | . X X X X . . . X . . . . . . 2 1 6 . | $$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . O X . . . . . . X O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . X X O . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X . . X . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . O . X X O X . . O X . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . O . X X O . X X . O . . | $$ | . . O . . . O . O O X . . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I admit I didn't see this sequence. It still gives black a good result, as follows:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm7 Hane on top. Points from prisoners: B 2 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X O X X X . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . X , X O . . O O O . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . X O . O . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . O O O O O O O . O . . . . . 1 O 2 . | $$ | . X O O X X X X . , . . . . . X X O . | $$ | . X X X X . . . X . . . . . 3 O X O . | $$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . . 5 4 O 6 . | $$ | . O . . . . O X . . . . . . X O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . X X O . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X . . X . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . O . X X O X . . O X . . O 8 . . | $$ | . . O X X . . O . X X O . X X 7 O . . | $$ | . . O . . . O . O O X . . 9 O O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Your second diagram is what I saw, and black seems to gain something out of it here too:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm1 Points from prisoners: B 2 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X O X X X . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . X , X O . . O O O . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . X O . O . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . . 7 . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . X O 9 | $$ | . O O O O O O O . O . . . . . 6 O 5 . | $$ | . X O O X X X X . , . . . . . 4 3 8 . | $$ | . X X X X . . . X . . . . . . 2 1 a . | $$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . O X . . . . . . X O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . X X O . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X . . X . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . O . X X O X . . O X . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . O . X X O . X X . O . . | $$ | . . O . . . O . O O X . . b O O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I'm guessing 'a' and 'b' might become a sort of miai? This looks like a black gain to me.

As always, my rank is my disclaimer - don't think that I know everything

.

dfan · **#450**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm100 ACTUAL GAME: Move 100. Points from prisoners: B 2 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X O X X X . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . X , X O . . O O O . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . X O . O . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . O O O O O O O . O . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . X O O X X X X . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . X X X X . . . X . . . . . . . X 1 . | $$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . O X . . . . . . X O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . X X O . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X . . X . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . O . X X O X . . O X . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . O . X X O . X X . O . . | $$ | . . O . . . O . O O X . . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Dusk Eagle · **#451**

My prediction:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X O X X X . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . X , X O . . O O O . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . X O . O . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . O O O O O O O . O . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . X O O X X X X . , . . . . . , 6 . . | $$ | . X X X X . . . X . . . . . . 5 X O . | $$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . 3 O . . | $$ | . O . . . . O X . . . . . . X O 4 . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . X X O . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X . . X . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . O . X X O X . . O X . . O 2 . . | $$ | . . O X X . . O . X X O . X X 1 O . . | $$ | . . O . . . O . O O X . . 7 O O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

dfan · **#452**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm101 ACTUAL GAME: Move 101. Points from prisoners: B 2 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X O X X X . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . X , X O . . O O O . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . X O . O . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . O O O O O O O . O . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . X O O X X X X . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . X X X X . . . X . . . . . . 1 X O . | $$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . O X . . . . . . X O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . X X O . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X . . X . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . O . X X O X . . O X . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . O . X X O . X X . O . . | $$ | . . O . . . O . O O X . . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

dfan · **#453**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm102 ACTUAL GAME: Move 102. Points from prisoners: B 2 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X O X X X . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . X , X O . . O O O . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . X O . O . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . O O O O O O O . O . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . X O O X X X X . , . . . . . , . 1 . | $$ | . X X X X . . . X . . . . . . X X O . | $$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . O X . . . . . . X O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . X X O . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X . . X . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . O . X X O X . . O X . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . O . X X O . X X . O . . | $$ | . . O . . . O . O O X . . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Harleqin · **#454**

I guess:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X O X X X . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . X , X O . . O O O . a . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . X O . O . . . . . . X . . b . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . c . X . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . O O O O O O O . O . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . X O O X X X X . , . . . . . , . W . | $$ | . X X X X . . . X . . . . . . X X O . | $$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . 1 O . . | $$ | . O . . . . O X . . . . . . X O 2 . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . X X O . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X . . X . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . O . X X O X . . O X . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . O . X X O . X X . O . . | $$ | . . O . . . O . O O X . . 3 O O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Then a, b, or c seem interesting.

Joaz Banbeck · **#455**

Harleqin wrote:

I guess:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X O X X X . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . X , X O . . O O O . a . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . X O . O . . . . . . X . . b . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . c . X . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . O O O O O O O . O . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . X O O X X X X . , . . . . . , . W . | $$ | . X X X X . . . X . . . . . . X X O . | $$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . 1 O . . | $$ | . O . . . . O X . . . . . . X O 2 . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . X X O . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X . . X . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . O . X X O X . . O X . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . O . X X O . X X . O . . | $$ | . . O . . . O . O O X . . 3 O O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Then a, b, or c seem interesting.

I'm not sure what black will do, but the moves above do not look profitable. Black 1 is aji keshi - I'd think that black wants to save it for a ko threat. Black 3 is gote.
It takes too long for me to count the size of various moves, so I'll just go on a hunch, playing at the juncture of two moyos:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X O X X X . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . X , X O . . O O O . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . X O . O . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . O O O O O O O . O . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . X O O X X X X . , B . . . . , . O . | $$ | . X X X X . . . X . . . . . . X X O . | $$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . O X . . . . . . X O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . X X O . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X . . X . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . O . X X O X . . O X . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . O . X X O . X X . O . . | $$ | . . O . . . O . O O X . . . O O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

dfan · **#456**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm103 ACTUAL GAME: Move 103. Points from prisoners: B 2 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X O X X X . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . X , X O . . O O O . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . X O . O . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . O O O O O O O . O . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . X O O X X X X . , . . . . . , . O . | $$ | . X X X X . . . X . . . . . . X X O . | $$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . O X . . . . . . X O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . X X O . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X . . X . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . O . X X O X . . O X . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . O . X X O . X X . O . . | $$ | . . O . . . O . O O X . . 1 O O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

dfan · **#457**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm104 ACTUAL GAME: Move 104. Points from prisoners: B 2 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X O X X X . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . X , X O . . O O O . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . X O . O . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . O O O O O O O . O . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . X O O X X X X . , 1 . . . . , . O . | $$ | . X X X X . . . X . . . . . . X X O . | $$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . O X . . . . . . X O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . X X O . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X . . X . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . O . X X O X . . O X . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . O . X X O . X X . O . . | $$ | . . O . . . O . O O X . . X O O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

dfan · **#458**

Interest seems to be winding down. Should I wrap it up?

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm105 ACTUAL GAME: Move 105. Points from prisoners: B 2 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X O X X X . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . X , X O . . O O O . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . X O . O . . . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . O O O O O O O . O . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . X O O X X X X . , O . . . . , . O . | $$ | . X X X X . . . X . . . . . . X X O . | $$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . O 1 . . . O X . . . . . . X O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . X . X X O . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X . . X . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . O . X X O X . . O X . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . O . X X O . X X . O . . | $$ | . . O . . . O . O O X . . X O O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Harleqin · **#459**

I am still wondering which of (a b c) is biggest. Is 'c' even the right place there?

'a' might be White's "privilege", because his continuation is bigger than Black's when he gets this point.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X O X X X . . . . X . . . . | $$ | . . X , X O . . O O O . c . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . X O . O . . . . . . X . . a . | $$ | . . . X . X O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . b . X . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . O O O O O O O . O . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . X O O X X X X . , O . . . . , . O . | $$ | . X X X X . . . X . . . . . . X X O . | $$ | . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . O B . . . O X . . . . . . X O . . . | $$ | . . 1 . . . . X . . . . X . X X O . . | $$ | . . . O . O O X . . X . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . O . X X O X . . O X . . O . . . | $$ | . . O X X . . O . X X O . X X . O . . | $$ | . . O . . . O . O O X . . X O O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Dusk Eagle · **#460**

I think wrapping it up might be okay as long as you provide an SGF, just so we can see quickly how the rest of the endgame plays out.

Prokovich game

Who is online