#76: CSamurai (5k) vs fwiffo(4k)

KGS 4 kyu · Post by **fwiffo** » Wed Oct 27, 2010 5:12 pm

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CSamurai · Post by **CSamurai** » Wed Oct 27, 2010 5:16 pm

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Or, you could play the only line I've read out.

KGS 4 kyu · Post by **fwiffo** » Wed Oct 27, 2010 5:38 pm

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CSamurai · Post by **CSamurai** » Wed Oct 27, 2010 5:41 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm91 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0.5 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . . . O . X . O . X . . . | $$ | . . X , O O . . X O . X . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X X X O O . O . . X . X X . . . | $$ | . . . . X O X . . . . . . . O X O X . | $$ | . . X 9 O O . . . . X . X . O O X X . | $$ | . . . X O . X . . X O X . X O O O O . | $$ | . . O O . . . . . . . O O O O X . . . | $$ | . . . , O . . . . , O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . X . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X O . . . . . . . X . . . X X . . | $$ | X O O . . . . . . . . . . O . . O O . | $$ | . X O O O . . . X , . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . X X X . X . . . . . X . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

KGS 4 kyu · Post by **fwiffo** » Wed Oct 27, 2010 5:50 pm

I resign.

CSamurai · Post by **CSamurai** » Wed Oct 27, 2010 5:55 pm

Thank you for the excellent game!

Why did you resign here, if I may ask?

KGS 4 kyu · Post by **fwiffo** » Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:06 pm

I was about 15 points behind by my count, and you were about to get the biggest sente moves. There just wasn't any way for me to make up that kind of gap and I don't have the energy to drag it out.

CSamurai · Post by **CSamurai** » Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:14 pm

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Did you at least consider the possibilities of A and B as major reductions/strength builders? They were the last moves I was terribly worried about.

Good game though. I just read through all the thoughts/comments on my game.

Thanks for the info about Joseki there, Redundant, I'll keep it in mind. I mentioned possible b18 moves because they've given me trouble in the past, but I like your refutation.

Also, you're right, fwiffo, the extension on the left should have been one further, I was really out of it when I played that.

Thank you everyone who took the time to read/comment on the game.

I think leaving the right side so weak was what allowed me to harass you through much of the midgame.

Also, there's a comment in one of my moves about a submarine invasion in k2 that could have made life much more interesting had you played it before I played n2.

Thanks again for playing with me.

CSamurai · Post by **CSamurai** » Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:24 pm

Aphelion wrote:Fwiffo:

Did you consider this? Its sente, no?

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Looks like white gets heavy, for a not much better result. It is sente, but if white hanes on top, black plays a 2 point extension from the wall (6 makes the 3 point extension bad) EDIT: No, wait, 3 point extension already existed. 4th line 1 point hop to avoid getting sealed in, and feels overconcentrated, but optimistic about attacking white's heavy group sooner or later.

KGS 4 kyu · Post by **fwiffo** » Wed Oct 27, 2010 7:31 pm

CSamurai wrote:Did you at least consider the possibilities of A and B as major reductions/strength builders? They were the last moves I was terribly worried about.

Yeah, but the right side group wasn't in any danger, so they didn't really apply any kind of pressure. They strength at that point wasn't really useful because there weren't any weak groups, and I couldn't use them to make any territory in the center because it was too open on two sides.

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