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Offline Laman
 Post subject: Re: 74. Laman (1d) vs. emeraldemon (3k)
Post #121 Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:48 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #106
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . W . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . X O . O . . . X X . . |
$$ | . O O O . O X . X O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O X X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

hmm, i somewhat expected black Q11 and me living at the side, but this is probably better for minimalizing damage of black's territory.

now i have to choose - make life inside or get outside? if i could, i would stay inside, but best variation i can find is ko and that would do me little good:
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[go]$$Bcm1 Diagram 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . 5 . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . 3 4 . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X 2 . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . 1 W . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . . X O 8 . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . O . 0 |
$$ | . . . , . . X . X O . O . . . X X 6 9 |
$$ | . O O O . O X . X O . . . O . . . 7 . |
$$ | . X X O . . O X X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

so i have to break out. my first thought was simply this:
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[go]$$Bcm1 Diagram 2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . 3 O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . 1 . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . 2 W O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . X O . O . . . X X . . |
$$ | . O O O . O X . X O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O X X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

but then i decided for slight modification (i hope improvement):
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[go]$$Bcm1 Diagram 3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . c O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . a . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . X O . b W 1 . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . 3 X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . 4 2 O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . X O . O . . . X X . . |
$$ | . O O O . O X . X O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O X X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

i thought about arguments why this should be better, but the truth is that it is just a silly trap, aiming to fix the upper side with a if black played b

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Offline emeraldemon
 Post subject: Re: 74. Laman (1d) vs. emeraldemon (3k)
Post #122 Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:08 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #107
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . B . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . X O . O . . . X X . . |
$$ | . O O O . O X . X O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O X X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Sente?
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Offline Laman
 Post subject: Re: 74. Laman (1d) vs. emeraldemon (3k)
Post #123 Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:39 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #108
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . W O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . X O . O . . . X X . . |
$$ | . O O O . O X . X O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O X X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

i think b hane O18 is not as good as b clamp N17

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[go]$$Wcm1 Diagram 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . 5 2 3 B . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . 1 O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . X O . O . . . X X . . |
$$ | . O O O . O X . X O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O X X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Wcm1 Diagram 2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . B O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . 1 . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . X O . O . . . X X . . |
$$ | . O O O . O X . X O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O X X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O . . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

this way i wouldn't really know what to play next

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Offline emeraldemon
 Post subject: Re: 74. Laman (1d) vs. emeraldemon (3k)
Post #124 Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:39 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #109
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . X O . O . . . X X . . |
$$ | . O O O . O X . X O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O X X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X 3 . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O 1 . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O 2 . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I do love sente. Here's the plan:
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #108
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . 7 5 6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O 8 . . . . . . 9 X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . W O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . X O . O . . . X X . . |
$$ | . O O O . O X . X O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O X X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X 3 . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O 1 . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O 2 . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . 4 |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I have to think a little bit about :b9: because there may be a little bit of aji in the corner, I don't want to walk into a seki or something.
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Offline Laman
 Post subject: Re: 74. Laman (1d) vs. emeraldemon (3k)
Post #125 Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 1:59 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #112
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . X O . O . . . X X . . |
$$ | . O O O . O X . X O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O X X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O O . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . W |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

temptation to tenuki, but unfortunately black would kill me (other variations possible):
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[go]$$Bcm1 Diagram 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . W X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . X O . O . . . X X . . |
$$ | . O O O . O X . X O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O X X O X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O O 6 |
$$ | . X O X . O . . O O X X X O X X O 7 . |
$$ | . O O O . . O . . . . . . X X O O 5 2 |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 4 3 . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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 Post subject: Re: 74. Laman (1d) vs. emeraldemon (3k)
Post #126 Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:27 am 
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If 4 is at ''a'', I'll make the same 5.

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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #112
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . 3 1 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O 4 a . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . X O . O . . . X X . . |
$$ | . O O O . O X . X O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O X X O X X . . 5 . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O O . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . W |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Not completely sure how to use the aji of those two stones. Originally I was thinking about

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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #112
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . X O . O . . . X X . . |
$$ | . O O O . O X . X O . . . O 2 4 . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O X X O X X . 1 . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . 3 . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O O . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . W |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


But there's also some wierd complications that can happen that way. I'm playing just a little bit on the safe side here. I think the game is very close, I can't tell whose ahead.
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 Post subject: Re: 74. Laman (1d) vs. emeraldemon (3k)
Post #127 Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 3:06 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #118
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . X O . O . . . X X . . |
$$ | . O O O . O X . X O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O X X O X X . W X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O O . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

i choose a
so we proceeded to the endgame. i think i am still ok, but i should take sente and not keep answering black moves

good news is that black center looks almost killable to me now. exchange of last moves helps it, as now i won't have to care about safety of my own group. if my attack were successful, i could end this war once and for good. i will analyze it more deeply before next move

another big moves i would like to play are R13 and N18

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Offline emeraldemon
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Post #128 Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 7:07 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #119
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . . B X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . X O . O . . . X X . . |
$$ | . O O O . O X . X O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O X X O X X . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O O . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I don't think I need to respond to that right away. Some big points I'm thinking about:

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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #118
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . 2 1 X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . O a . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . d . . . . O . . |
$$ | . b . , . . X . X O . O . . . X X . . |
$$ | . O O O . O X . X O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O X X O X X . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O O . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . O . . c . . . X X O O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Post #129 Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 1:19 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #120
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . W X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . X O . O . . . X X . . |
$$ | . O O O . O X . X O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O X X O X X . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O O . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

following the principle of mutual damage i should find a move of equal value as black's and counter his sente with mine own. unfortunately, if there is such a move i failed to see it. to be precise, for example w C14 is bigger sente than b N18, but it is a very small move at the same time and gote for black, so it is not worth playing it right now

as i count it, the game is still pretty close, so i am calm, although i prefer to decide the result in middlegame and in endgame only defend comfortable advantage, if possible

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Post #130 Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 8:02 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #120
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . 2 O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . 1 X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . O 3 . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . X O . O . . . X X . . |
$$ | . O O O . O X . X O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O X X O X X . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O O . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Post #131 Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 12:28 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #124
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . W O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . X . X O . O . . . X X . . |
$$ | . O O O . O X . X O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O X X O X X . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O O . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

this is getting bad, not only i am behind, but the margin is becoming wider and wider. i have to get to play in the center in sente

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Post #132 Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 12:46 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #124
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . B . , . . X . X O . O . . . X X . . |
$$ | . O O O . O X . X O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O X X O X X . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O O . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Well, I had to take gote eventually. This is big though, I think I may be able to pull a slight lead.
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Post #133 Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 1:25 pm 
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Alright, time to see if Laman call pull off some crazy attack on the center group.

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Post #134 Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 4:39 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #125
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . X . , . . X . X O . O . . . X X . . |
$$ | . O O O . O X . X O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O X X O X X . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . W . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O O . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Jedo: good, another comment

finally i got a chance to do something. this should be sente, otherwise i will cut black at Q6. best is that this prevent black from sente in the same area, threating to connect with M8. then i aim for this:
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[go]$$Bcm1 Diagram 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X X 6 4 X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . 2 X 5 . . X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O 8 . O 3 . X . X O . 9 X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . 7 . . X . . . . . 0 O O . . |
$$ | . X . , . . X . X O . O . . . X X . . |
$$ | . O O O . O X . X O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O X X O X X . O X 1 . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . W . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O O . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #135 Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 7:20 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move ? I think we got off
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . X . , . . X . X O . O . . . X X . . |
$$ | . O O O . O X . X O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O X X O X X . O X B . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O O . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I have to do something, or else my stones are split. I like this b/c it protects some points on the right. On the other hand, W can extend once more in sente.
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Post #136 Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 9:17 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #128
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X X . . X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . W X . . . X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . X . , . . X . X O . O . . . X X . . |
$$ | . O O O . O X . X O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O X X O X X . O X X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O O . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

#128 is most likely off, but consistent with previous moves. it doesn't matter much anyway
so this worked, i follow the plan.

i was worried what if black would have decided my move is not so much sente and countered with F11 or something

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Post #137 Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 11:37 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #128
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X X . B X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O X . . . X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . X . , . . X . X O . O . . . X X . . |
$$ | . O O O . O X . X O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O X X O X X . O X X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O O . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Need to block this way to maintain eyeshape:
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #128
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X X . 1 X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . W X . . . X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O 2 3 X . X O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . X . , . . X . X O . O . . . X X . . |
$$ | . O O O . O X . X O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O X X O X X . O X X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O O . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Offline Laman
 Post subject: Re: 74. Laman (1d) vs. emeraldemon (3k)
Post #138 Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 12:20 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #130
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O O W O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X X . X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O X . . . X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . X . , . . X . X O . O . . . X X . . |
$$ | . O O O . O X . X O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O X X O X X . O X X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O O . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

oh yes, i sort of missed this variation, but the main difference is that i get other two stones:
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[go]$$Bcm1 Diagram 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O O W O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X X 1 X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O X . 3 2 X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X 4 X O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . X . , . . X . X O . O . . . X X . . |
$$ | . O O O . O X . X O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O X X O X X . O X X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O O . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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 Post subject: Re: 74. Laman (1d) vs. emeraldemon (3k)
Post #139 Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 9:03 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #131
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X X B X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O X . . . X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . X . , . . X . X O . O . . . X X . . |
$$ | . O O O . O X . X O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O X X O X X . O X X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O O . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Offline Laman
 Post subject: Re: 74. Laman (1d) vs. emeraldemon (3k)
Post #140 Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:18 am 
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[go]$$Bcm1 Move #132
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O . . . . O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . X . . . . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . O . O . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . O O O O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X X X X X . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O X . . W X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . O . . X . X O . . X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . X . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . X . , . . X . X O . O . . . X X . . |
$$ | . O O O . O X . X O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . O X X O X X . O X X . . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . X O O O . . . O . X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X X X . O . . . . X X . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O O . . . . X O X . |
$$ | . X X X . . . X X X O O O . . X O O . |
$$ | . X O X . O . . O O X X X O X X O . . |
$$ | . O O O . . O . . . . . . X X O O . O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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