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 Post subject: 81: kokomi(around 8k) x Menezes (8k)
Post #1 Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 7:05 am 
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Japanese rules. 6.5 komi.

I'll be black, cause I'm probably weaker.

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just standart hoshi. I'm thinking about going with chinese low, but I'm not sure I know how to play it completely right.

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Post #2 Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 5:34 am 
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[go]$$Wcm2 kokomi/Menezes 1
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Have a nice game

I hope he doesn't play chinese opening

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Post #3 Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 6:10 am 
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Oh yes. Have a nice game too.

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[go]$$Bcm3 Kokomi/Menezes
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


So, I'm probably going with chinese low. But that will depend on his next move.

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Post #4 Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 11:58 am 
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[go]$$Wcm4 Kokomi/Menezes
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Whatever people doesn't want, it will happen. I somehow get the feeling that he will play chinese.

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Post #5 Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:06 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm4 Kokomi/Menezes
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


White four is a mistake. Leaving the ideal approach is not something one should do if there's any way to avoid it.

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Post #6 Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:12 pm 
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Redundant wrote:
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[go]$$Wcm4 Kokomi/Menezes
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White four is a mistake. Leaving the ideal approach is not something one should do if there's any way to avoid it.


Maybe he hates Chinese so much that he's willing to tempt black in with an approach so black has to chose.

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Post #7 Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:13 pm 
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Redundant wrote:
White four is a mistake. Leaving the ideal approach is not something one should do if there's any way to avoid it.


Many strong pros have played it... Fujisawa Shuko played it many times, but you can see others have tried it as well. Recent examples appear in databases.

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Post #8 Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:01 pm 
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So many comments for only 4 moves :clap:

I rolled up again to check my last move, and made sure that I did not place my stone in wrong place by accident :roll:

comments are always welcomed :bow: just curious... :lol:

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Post #9 Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:14 pm 
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I rolled up again to check my last move, and made sure that I did not place my stone in wrong place by accident


Not for players:
Haha, just to mess with his head some more :P

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Post #10 Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 5:25 pm 
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Oh yeah, I forgot to say. It's closed comments for us, right kokomi? I haven't specified that.

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[go]$$Kokomi/Menezes
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So, as I intended, I'm going to play the chinese opening. If he attacks the upper right corner, I'm going for a pincer.

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Post #11 Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:35 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm6 Kokomi/Menezes
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Hi Menezes, could you please not delete the sentence 'Wcm..' from the first line of the code? Thanks :) A bit hard for me to comment when i can not read the coordinates of the board :P

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Post #12 Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:40 pm 
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And sorry for being slow last week. A bit busy :P

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